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    Re: NBC Apologizes for Omitting 'Under God' From Pledge During U.S. Open Broadcast

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    It implies religion period. What about people who don't have religion in their lives? What about atheists? Should they be excluded just so a few deists that actually care enough can rest easy knowing that it's in there?
    So you have to be a part of a religion to believe in God? Really? I didn't know that.

    By moral minority, I'm referring to those who actually care enough to complain rather than switching the channel. Everyone has morals, whether they admit it or not. They may not be ones that you agree with, but they are there regardless.
    I see. So just so I have this straight, you consider those that called into NBC to complain, some kind of religious morons (my paraphrase) because they didn't just turn the channel, yet those who complain about Beck, or Hannity are somehow more intelligent?

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    Re: NBC Apologizes for Omitting 'Under God' From Pledge During U.S. Open Broadcast

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    A... (or the teachers or administrators in charge, more correctly). If they were not in charge, then my comment does not apply to them. Whomever WAS in charge is who I was referring to.

    B... it was the ONLY thing edited out from the pledge. WHy did something have to be edited out? And how do you 'know' something 'had' to be edited?
    A. Why is anyone in charge of whether or not a student chooses to say the Pledge?

    B. I don't. I just suspect it did. Even that being the case, they have picked to edit that particular part. They may have simply done it by mistake. In any case, why does it bother you? Why is it such a big deal to you for NBC to not pat you on the head for being religious? Why is that part of the Pledge (which isn't even in the original, and I still believe is unconstitutional) more important to you than any other? If they'd cut "with liberty and justice for all" would you be this disgruntled?

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    Re: NBC Apologizes for Omitting 'Under God' From Pledge During U.S. Open Broadcast

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    A. Why is anyone in charge of whether or not a student chooses to say the Pledge?
    Why is anyone in charge? Really? Is that a serious question?

    B. I don't. I just suspect it did. Even that being the case, they have picked to edit that particular part. They may have simply done it by mistake. In any case, why does it bother you? Why is it such a big deal to you for NBC to not pat you on the head for being religious?
    So you suspect that Under God needed to be edited out? Why? And maybe you can explain how saying that we are one nation under God is a nod to ANY religion.

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    Re: NBC Apologizes for Omitting 'Under God' From Pledge During U.S. Open Broadcast

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Here's the thing...

    I don't really have a huge problem with the school children omitting 'Under God' themselves. That's on them (or the teachers or administrators in charge, more correctly).

    However, I DO have a problem with a 'news' organization 'editing' it out.
    Honestly, i would think it's the other way around for you.

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    Re: NBC Apologizes for Omitting 'Under God' From Pledge During U.S. Open Broadcast

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you have to be a part of a religion to believe in God? Really? I didn't know that.



    I see. So just so I have this straight, you consider those that called into NBC to complain, some kind of religious morons (my paraphrase) because they didn't just turn the channel, yet those who complain about Beck, or Hannity are somehow more intelligent?

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    Re: NBC Apologizes for Omitting 'Under God' From Pledge During U.S. Open Broadcast

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Have you ever spent a day in a broadcast studio?

    30 seconds is an eternity. There is NOTHING that is worth 30 seconds apart from ads.
    Did you see the video? They saved an extra 2 seconds maybe by omitting "under God, indivisible". And I think it was intentional as it usually is when someone omits "under God". If an organization is going to lead the audience in the Pledge, they should say it like it's written. If an individual wants to omit something, they can. If you think something should be omitted permanetely, talk to your Congressmen.


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    Re: NBC Apologizes for Omitting 'Under God' From Pledge During U.S. Open Broadcast

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why is anyone in charge? Really? Is that a serious question?

    So you suspect that Under God needed to be edited out? Why? And maybe you can explain how saying that we are one nation under God is a nod to ANY religion.

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    A. That isn't what I said and you know it. Stop trying to twist my words. As pertains to what I actually said, I am fairly sure in some places kids are legally protected from being forced to say the Pledge.

    B. I suspect it's possible *something* needed to be edited out. But I don't think it matters. Anyone around during the 50's or with even the tiniest amount of knowledge about history knows what they meant when they added "under god" and they weren't talkin' about Shiva. It also specifically alienates atheists and other non-religious people... and you are aware the non-religious are the second largest ground in America, behind only Christianity, right?

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    Re: NBC Apologizes for Omitting 'Under God' From Pledge During U.S. Open Broadcast

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian
    A... (or the teachers or administrators in charge, more correctly). If they were not in charge, then my comment does not apply to them. Whomever WAS in charge is who I was referring to.

    B... it was the ONLY thing edited out from the pledge. WHy did something have to be edited out? And how do you 'know' something 'had' to be edited?
    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    A. Why is anyone in charge of whether or not a student chooses to say the Pledge?

    B. I don't. I just suspect it did. Even that being the case, they have picked to edit that particular part. They may have simply done it by mistake. In any case, why does it bother you? Why is it such a big deal to you for NBC to not pat you on the head for being religious? Why is that part of the Pledge (which isn't even in the original, and I still believe is unconstitutional) more important to you than any other? If they'd cut "with liberty and justice for all" would you be this disgruntled?
    A... In general, they are not. This was not just some random student saying the pledge, or some random group that just happened to decide to recite the pledge and got caught on camera by chance, as you'd know if you bothered to actually research anything you spout off about.

    B... no idea what you're blathering on about there. But if it makes you feel superior, by all means, continue to blather. We've come to expect that from you.

    C... Yes. Had any part been edited, I'd be annoyed and posting.

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    Re: NBC Apologizes for Omitting 'Under God' From Pledge During U.S. Open Broadcast

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You are kidding right?


    To believe in a god or gods fundamentally means you believe in a religion/s. It could be refering to any number of gods, but it still is a religion.

    Um no, it isn't really....I don't have a religion, but I believe in God.

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    Re: NBC Apologizes for Omitting 'Under God' From Pledge During U.S. Open Broadcast

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    A. That isn't what I said. In fact I am fairly sure in some places kids are legally protected from being forced to say the Pledge.B. I suspect it's possible *something* needed to be edited out. But I don't think it matters. Anyone around during the 50's or with even the tiniest amount of knowledge about history knows what they meant when they added "under god" and they weren't talkin' about Shiva. It also specifically alienates atheists and other non-religious people... and you are aware the non-religious are the second largest ground in America, behind only Christianity, right?
    WHo was forced to say the pledge here? You have proof of this?

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