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    Re: Pawlenty's super-rich tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    You fail to understand my point, you look at a lot of this stuff from a very one dimensional point of view, you tend to be rather reactionary and suggest economic ideas that you fail to grasp of their full effects. Not raising the debt ceiling being a recent example.

    My point... Again! Is that there is this seriously unhealthy fixation on personal income taxes for the wealthy, for anyone for that matter, when the more complex issues of why the US is in the position it's in goes undiscussed...

    There's a lot more to jobs and economies then that.
    I look at America, and how it works. What works here, doesn't always work elsewhere and vice versa.

    I'm not obsessed with how much people make, I applaud success...

    BTW On the debt ceiling... the answer is don't raise it. CUT SPENDING.
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    Re: Pawlenty's super-rich tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by toddwv View Post
    So what specifically about his plan "creates" or even encourages job creation?
    Nothing, he just enriches his super rich friends at the expense of the hard working poor of America, I applaud this and scoff at poor people!
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    Re: Pawlenty's super-rich tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    where are the jobs that the bush tax cuts, which are still in effect, were supposed to create? where? according to conservative logic, we should have more jobs than we can fill.
    YEAH! You're so right, tax cuts just **** the little guy and make super rich people super more rich! **** the rich people! More taxes! More Regulations! That's the ticket to helping poor folks out and sticking it ot the evil rich people!!!
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    Re: Pawlenty's super-rich tax cuts

    [QUOTE=MrVicchio;1059581423]I look at America, and how it works. What works here, doesn't always work elsewhere and vice versa.

    I'm not obsessed with how much people make, I applaud success...[\QUOTE]

    Either you're not addressing my point on purpose, or you're incapable of understanding it.

    BTW On the debt ceiling... the answer is don't raise it. CUT SPENDING.
    I dare you. Just to see the look on your face when the country is in absolute collapse because of that kind of short sighted, reactionary thinking.

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    Re: Pawlenty's super-rich tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    YEAH! You're so right, tax cuts just **** the little guy and make super rich people super more rich! **** the rich people! More taxes! More Regulations! That's the ticket to helping poor folks out and sticking it ot the evil rich people!!!
    i'm guessing you have nothing more to add to the conversation? the question was, where are the jobs? the conservative/republican mantra has always been cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes...they say it will stimulate the economy, CREATE JOBS...i'm simply asking, with bush tax cuts in place, why are we not seeing tons of jobs created? if lower taxes are equal to more jobs, WHERE ARE THE JOBS?

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    Re: Pawlenty's super-rich tax cuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I look at America, and how it works. What works here, doesn't always work elsewhere and vice versa.

    I'm not obsessed with how much people make, I applaud success...[\QUOTE]

    Either you're not addressing my point on purpose, or you're incapable of understanding it.



    I dare you. Just to see the look on your face when the country is in absolute collapse because of that kind of short sighted, reactionary thinking.
    It's short sighted to say "We spend so ****ing much we have to keep borrowing, cut spending?" Your answer is to... borrow more?

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    Re: Pawlenty's super-rich tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i'm guessing you have nothing more to add to the conversation? the question was, where are the jobs? the conservative/republican mantra has always been cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes...they say it will stimulate the economy, CREATE JOBS...i'm simply asking, with bush tax cuts in place, why are we not seeing tons of jobs created? if lower taxes are equal to more jobs, WHERE ARE THE JOBS?
    Are you serious? You're asking a logical question expecting a logical answer? Brother, all you're gonna get is the same ol' same ol' nonsense and maybe an insult or two thrown in. Good luck.

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    Re: Pawlenty's super-rich tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i'm guessing you have nothing more to add to the conversation? the question was, where are the jobs? the conservative/republican mantra has always been cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes...they say it will stimulate the economy, CREATE JOBS...i'm simply asking, with bush tax cuts in place, why are we not seeing tons of jobs created? if lower taxes are equal to more jobs, WHERE ARE THE JOBS?
    There were no jobs, it's all a scam to enrich the super wealthy.



    *Maybe I'm just not in the mood to bother going and posting information you'll just say is bull**** anyway? I figure if I just mock your position it cuts to the chase.
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    Re: Pawlenty's super-rich tax cuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post

    It's short sighted to say "We spend so ****ing much we have to keep borrowing, cut spending?" Your answer is to... borrow more?


    We could raise taxes. Ya know when the costs of production goes up for widgets usually widgets cost more.

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    Re: Pawlenty's super-rich tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Different situation Jet, different countries, your obsession with comparing apples and oranges is unhealthy.
    What is so different about the Canadian and German economies (aside from their functionality)

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