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Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to 2012

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toddwv said:
Wasn't that the case that was dropped by the Bush DOJ because "voter intimidation" cases requires that there be intimidation? The case was dropped because nobody came forward to say that they were intimidated.

Should they just have went ahead with the case when it was apparent that no crime was committed?
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It was dropped by the OBAMA DOJ.
 
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MrVicchio said:


It's only okay to intimidate voters if you are blocking "Whitey"

John Fund: Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case Dropped - WSJ.com
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Really, MrVicchio? You're going to use two Black men trying to scare off voters and equate it to robo-calls that reached thousands of potential voters both Blacks and Whites (but majority Black) to champion your call to "justice"? Really?

That's low even for you.
 
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MrVicchio said:
It was dropped by the OBAMA DOJ.
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The DOJ decided not to pursue charges because there was no proof of any prosecutable offenses.

This was decided BEFORE President Obama was inaugurated and well BEFORE Eric Holder became the Attorney General.
 
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megaprogman said:
Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to 2012 - The Washington Post



So we have a dispute between the parties about whether this strategy was used or not. However ...



I don't particularly care about the charges of whether one race or demographic was favored over another. What I do care about is that voters were flat out lied to, and that sort of thing should be prosecuted as fraud.
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Maryland vote has been corrupt for years, hell, maybe even decades. But it isn't in favor of the GOP I can tell you that.

j-mac
 
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toddwv said:
The DOJ decided not to pursue charges because there was no proof of any prosecutable offenses.

This was decided BEFORE President Obama was inaugurated and well BEFORE Eric Holder became the Attorney General.
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Ummmm....No, that is simply, not true.

j-mac
 
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toddwv said:
The DOJ decided not to pursue charges because there was no proof of any prosecutable offenses.

This was decided BEFORE President Obama was inaugurated and well BEFORE Eric Holder became the Attorney General.
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Not true. And apparently at least one attorney at the Department of Justice felt otherwise to the point that he resigned his position:

A former Justice Department attorney who quit his job to protest the Obama administration's handling of the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case is accusing Attorney General Eric Holder of dropping the charges for racially motivated reasons.

J. Christian Adams, now an attorney in Virginia and a conservative blogger for Pajamas Media, says he and the other Justice Department lawyers working on the case were ordered to dismiss it.

"I mean we were told, 'Drop the charges against the New Black Panther Party,'" Adams told Fox News, adding that political appointees Loretta King, acting head of the civil rights division, and Steve Rosenbaum, an attorney with the division since 2003, ordered the dismissal....

Adams told Fox News that the New Black Panther case was the "easiest I ever had at the Justice Department.

"It doesn't get any easier than this," he said. "If this doesn't constitute voter intimidation, nothing will."

Former Justice Department Lawyer Accuses Holder of Dropping New Black Panther Case for Racial Reasons - FoxNews.com
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I think the Republicans need to stop suppressing votes from the dead too. And remember Democrats, "Vote early and vote often.'
 
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VanceMack said:
An interesting read, to be sure. Seems the majority were simply not registered. I truly believe that instead of congressional hearings there should have been legal proceedings...trials...with both sides submitting evidence. I stand by what i said...if someone was found guilty of denying someone their legal right to vote they should be jailed.

Seems to me though there was an awful lot of people that were not properly registered or registered twice. That also should be looked into.

Finally...about a third of the page you cited mentioned voter intimidation by police (none of the information mentioned the military votes were denied...I wont say that INVALIDATES your source, but it sure makes it look a little questionable and one sided). It IS interesting that 'What If...? likes your posting about voter intimidation by police officers at polling locations, but ridicules the concern about 'scawy' people with nightsticks as being intimidating.

yeah...bias is still a problem, isnt it?
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Wow, you're making up what's in the article... None of those people were improperly registered, and there's nothing to suggest otherwise.

And I get how you're hung up on military members not having their votes counted, but that's an issue that likely falls to the military to deal with, as opposed to polling locations actively ignoring their votes. Not addressing your pet peeve doesn't invalidate anything, and no matter what you want to make up will change that. MASSIVE fraud on the part of the state of Florida took place back in 2000, and it was entirely aimed at illegally denying millions of black Americans their right to vote.

Cheating to win elections was a Republican strategy in 1972, and in 2000, and it continues today. I wonder how many more elections they cheated in...
 
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American said:
I think the Republicans need to stop suppressing votes from the dead too. And remember Democrats, "Vote early and vote often.'
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I've read about the information about dead people not always being properly communicated and the dead remaining on eligible lists... but I've never heard of any concerted effort, by anyone, to ever take advantage of that, and I've certainly never heard of it seriously affecting an election's outcome.
 
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Paschendale said:
Wow, you're making up what's in the article... None of those people were improperly registered, and there's nothing to suggest otherwise.

And I get how you're hung up on military members not having their votes counted, but that's an issue that likely falls to the military to deal with, as opposed to polling locations actively ignoring their votes. Not addressing your pet peeve doesn't invalidate anything, and no matter what you want to make up will change that. MASSIVE fraud on the part of the state of Florida took place back in 2000, and it was entirely aimed at illegally denying millions of black Americans their right to vote.

Cheating to win elections was a Republican strategy in 1972, and in 2000, and it continues today. I wonder how many more elections they cheated in...
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Dood...if you dont believe both parties are pulling shenanigans you are either blind or 'that guy'. Now...I don't know what happened there...I dont know how many of those 12000 students that received double voter registrations or how many of the motor voter registration forms were done improperly. But then...you must have missed where I would prefer a TRIAL...let the truth come out. I'm not invested one way or the other. I would LOVE to see a trial and would stand by whoever was found guilty sent to jail. That includes everyone that is lying. I dont care who it is...let em ALL dangle. I'm disgusted by ALL the voter fraud.
 
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Paschendale said:
MASSIVE fraud on the part of the state of Florida took place back in 2000, and it was entirely aimed at illegally denying millions of black Americans their right to vote.
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How do we get from Lavonna Lewis, Angenora Ramsey, Cathy Jackson, and a handful of other blacks to "countless voters" to "MASSIVE fraud on the part of the state of Florida... aimed entirely at illegally denying millions of black Americans their right to vote"? And where are these people?
 
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jamesrage said:
I do not think that most of the people who voted for Obama are stupid. I do think a significant portion of them just like those who voted for republicans are ignorant when it comes to politics. This does not in any shape or form mean they are stupid. It just means they have not put much time or thought into politics/political issues just like there are some people who do not put much thought or effort into sports, Star Trek/Star Wars, video games, and other ****.
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I would completely agree with you. As a whole, Americans don't know much about politics. However, in the US, the only real thing you need to know when you enter the voting booth is whether you are an elephant or a donkey.
 
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megaprogman said:
Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to 2012 - The Washington Post



So we have a dispute between the parties about whether this strategy was used or not. However ...



I don't particularly care about the charges of whether one race or demographic was favored over another. What I do care about is that voters were flat out lied to, and that sort of thing should be prosecuted as fraud.
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:shrug: Well - I imagine that the same punishment that was waged against the Black Panther party members who tried to prevent whites from voting will be waged, here.

Oh wait - it probably won't be.

Beyond that - I can't from an opinion because I can't read the 'document' that's so damning :shrug: I'm not going to form an opinion based on a few random snippets.
 
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