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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact I quoted part of it to you.

    Can you answer the question?
    Here it is from the article.

    Election Night robo-calls to mostly black neighborhoods in Baltimore and Washington’s eastern Maryland suburbs. The calls told tens of thousands of residents to “relax” and not worry about voting, because Democrats had already won.

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Regarding Florida...does anyone have any instances of actual voter denial from 2000? I recall interviews with several protestors who claimed their rights where violated but when asked which voting precint they were turned away from or where they attempted to vote they couldnt provide either. I recall protestors carrying signs decrying a return to 'Jim Crow" laws but when asked what Jim Crow laws were or how they were returning to Jim Crow era laws couldnt answer. It was obvious they were part of Jessie Jacksons bussed in out of town outrage.

    Ive long maintained that I would support (hell..I'll financially back) a lawsuit by any person who was actually legally allowed to vote in a district but was turned away. The only caveat being that if that person is lying they should go to prison. Other than bull**** claims, Ive never seen anyone documented that was denied their right to vote.

    Florida was a fiasco...but then so was Wisconsin with students stuffing ballot boxes, New Mexico, Washington state with voter fraud, Ohio with homeless people being rounded up and fed hotmeals and given cigarettesa dn alcohol while others filled out their ballots for them, or Ohio where the courts ordered polling places to re-open to allow people to vote. Florida to my knowledge has never had an unabridged county by county including military absentee ballot full voter recount. its always been counties in republican or democrat heavy areas targeted for recount.

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Regarding Florida...does anyone have any instances of actual voter denial from 2000? I recall interviews with several protestors who claimed their rights where violated but when asked which voting precint they were turned away from or where they attempted to vote they couldnt provide either. I recall protestors carrying signs decrying a return to 'Jim Crow" laws but when asked what Jim Crow laws were or how they were returning to Jim Crow era laws couldnt answer. It was obvious they were part of Jessie Jacksons bussed in out of town outrage.

    Ive long maintained that I would support (hell..I'll financially back) a lawsuit by any person who was actually legally allowed to vote in a district but was turned away. The only caveat being that if that person is lying they should go to prison. Other than bull**** claims, Ive never seen anyone documented that was denied their right to vote.

    Florida was a fiasco...but then so was Wisconsin with students stuffing ballot boxes, New Mexico, Washington state with voter fraud, Ohio with homeless people being rounded up and fed hotmeals and given cigarettesa dn alcohol while others filled out their ballots for them, or Ohio where the courts ordered polling places to re-open to allow people to vote. Florida to my knowledge has never had an unabridged county by county including military absentee ballot full voter recount. its always been counties in republican or democrat heavy areas targeted for recount.
    The result in Florida is history, and cant be changed... done is done.

    The problem with Florida was it exposed the massive flaws in the election system. Not only cant people count or agree on what is a legit vote, but the fact that the person in charge of validating and organising the vote was a party politician of one of the parties, and closely connected to one of the candidates... the one that won. The conflict of interest in the whole mess (and later on in Ohio and pretty much everywhere else) is a massive problem since you cant trust anyone involved.

    On top of that you had the 1351461 different versions of "how to run an election", instead of a unified simple system like in most industrialised western countries. This in turn means that people can even question the whole process in the individual area that is in contention.

    Like it or not the basis for democracy is that you trust the election system and the people who run it. You cant say that of the US election system.. and that is what Florida (and later Ohio and elsewhere) showed us..... the inability to fix the election system at local, state and national level, so that there is full transparency and equality in rules and law. With this comes trust and the many law suits over results will go away.
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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    The editorial standards of the Washington Post hit a new low with this one. The article cites a criminal indictment whose "centerpiece" is a single document presented at a meeting of a Republican "brain trust" outlining a strategy that even the state prosecutor appointed by the Democrat governor admitted was rejected by those present at the meeting. The article provides further "evidence" of a "Republican doctrine" to suppress the black vote by quoting a representative of the NAACP and referencing a statement by a political science professor that there "may be" such a doctrine.

    In light of this shoddy reporting, when do we get the Post article concerning the Democrat doctrine to register dead people, felons, illegal aliens, and Mary Poppins?
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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The Republicans say they rejected that proposal. How do we not know that this wasn't the actions of an individual?
    We don't. But let's just pounce on it and say ALL Republicans agree with it anyway, just fir ****s and giggles.

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    The editorial standards of the Washington Post hit a new low with this one. The article cites a criminal indictment whose "centerpiece" is a single document presented at a meeting of a Republican "brain trust" outlining a strategy that even the state prosecutor appointed by the Democrat governor admitted was rejected by those present at the meeting. The article provides further "evidence" of a "Republican doctrine" to suppress the black vote by quoting a representative of the NAACP and referencing a statement by a political science professor that there "may be" such a doctrine.

    In light of this shoddy reporting, when do we get the Post article concerning the Democrat doctrine to register dead people, felons, illegal aliens, and Mary Poppins?
    If innuendo and supposition and lies are not enough to convince you that the Republicans are supressing the black vote and are evil baby killers, I don't know what will.

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Here it is from the article.
    That is accusations, not evidence!

    This sort of dirty politics, accusations without substance, has been going on for years but often they are just accusations, and eventually urban myths,

    The aftermath of these accusations was alluded to in the article, and thats the whole point in making them.

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That is accusations, not evidence!

    This sort of dirty politics, accusations without substance, has been going on for years but often they are just accusations, and eventually urban myths,

    The aftermath of these accusations was alluded to in the article, and thats the whole point in making them.
    The accusation was that the person indicted was responsible, not that the robocalls happened. That part is known.

    The purpose of the trail is to attempt to find out who is responsible.

    Whats the point of rehashing known information? Are you trying to question whether the robocalls happened at all? If so, then why did it get as far as a grand jury?
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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Regarding Florida...does anyone have any instances of actual voter denial from 2000?
    Here's some. Notice how it's almost entirely blacks whose votes were prevented. Not to mention how the voting machines in white and republican areas were set to return any ballots with mistakes on them, so the ballots could be corrected and resubmitted, and those in black areas were set to keep and simply discard incorrect ballots, without informing the voters whose votes were being ignored.
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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

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    It's only okay to intimidate voters if you are blocking "Whitey"

    John Fund: Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case Dropped - WSJ.com
    Two guys in silly costumes. SO scawy. Dere gonna get me, eeeeeee.
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