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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    According to the mulitple recounts, Republicans stole Florida by . . .. a majority.

    oldest, dirtiest trick in the book.

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    1) I am an American
    2) The Electoral College is useless
    3) Most agree that Florida was stolen by republicans in some way.
    1)Then you should understand how the Electoral College and State Rights work.

    2) Whether or not the Electoral College is "useless" or not it is still in effect, making the popular vote a non-issue.

    3) Most do not agree with that at all and if anyone does diagre they are not acquainted with the facts.. There were several recounts done by the media, well after the decision by the courts, and Gore never led in one of them. It's disturbing that a Canadian would have to explain to an American, if indeed you are one, what went on during and following that election.

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    then I fail to see the basis for your complaint.

    Unless, you are trying to muddy the issue. This is a common debate tactic.
    Here is your original post.

    I don't particularly care about the charges of whether one race or demographic was favored over another. What I do care about is that voters were flat out lied to, and that sort of thing should be prosecuted as fraud.
    "Voters were flat out lied to" during the election campaign and, as I said, no one who voted for BHO seems to mind all that much.

    But the key part of this latest charge is this.
    But even before Schurick or Henson appear in court, political analysts and leading members of Maryland’s black community said Friday that the image painted in the indictment of a Republican strategy session to target Maryland’s black voters could resonate in the 2012 presidential race, and possibly long after in state politics.

    “We know this goes on behind closed doors and this is going to make us more aware for a long time,” said Gerald Stansbury, president of the Maryland state conference of the NAACP. “It’s an appalling situation and it’s going to open a lot of people’s eyes, not just here, but everywhere.”
    And that's the entire strategy and one that has been used previously. All Democrats have to do is plant the idea that this is going on and it will cement the idea further that the extremely important Black voting bloc will continue to follow the Democrats. It no long matters whether the story is true or not,

    There's an old political saying that if you throw enough crap against the side of a barn (concerning your political opponent) some of it is bound to stick. This is one of those moments..

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Here is your original post.



    "Voters were flat out lied to" during the election campaign and, as I said, no one who voted for BHO seems to mind all that much.

    But the key part of this latest charge is this.
    yes, they were lied to in order to lower their voter turn out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And that's the entire strategy and one that has been used previously. All Democrats have to do is plant the idea that this is going on and it will cement the idea further that the extremely important Black voting bloc will continue to follow the Democrats. It no long matters whether the story is true or not,

    There's an old political saying that if you throw enough crap against the side of a barn (concerning your political opponent) some of it is bound to stick. This is one of those moments..
    There is, of course, a major difference in flat out lying and a viewpoint or opinion. Now I don't particularly agree with the NAACP's viewpoint, but I can see where they could hold it and have a reference to events as supporting evidence.

    to recap, having two different views and interpretations of events, both supported by the fact = different opinions.
    telling something that is patently untrue and can easily be checked vs the facts = lying
    lying in an area where it impacts and reduces civil rights = a huge problem and reason for outrage.
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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    yes, they were lied to in order to lower their voter turn out.
    And where is your evidence?

    There is, of course, a major difference in flat out lying and a viewpoint or opinion. Now I don't particularly agree with the NAACP's viewpoint, but I can see where they could hold it and have a reference to events as supporting evidence.
    But there are those who are offering opinion as fact.

    to recap, having two different views and interpretations of events, both supported by the fact = different opinions.
    telling something that is patently untrue and can easily be checked vs the facts = lying
    lying in an area where it impacts and reduces civil rights = a huge problem and reason for outrage.
    Then lets see your facts.

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And where is your evidence?



    But there are those who are offering opinion as fact.



    Then lets see your facts.
    You did actually bother to read the article I posted, right?
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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    You did actually bother to read the article I posted, right?
    In fact I quoted part of it to you.

    Can you answer the question?

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Does this mean that Democrats are going be prosecuted when military votes are suppressed?
    Of course not. Remember the Black Panthers that stood outside of a polling booth in Philly, intimidating voters? Eric Holder dropped that case like a hot potato. Here's a video of him defending that position. Now, I'm not saying that suppressing the black vote is a good thing. I think it's awful and shameful. I just want to remind everyone that it's not a problem that can be attributed to one party.
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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to



    It's only okay to intimidate voters if you are blocking "Whitey"

    John Fund: Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case Dropped - WSJ.com

    President Obama's Justice Department continues to stonewall inquiries about why it dropped a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party.

    The episode—which Bartle Bull, a former civil rights lawyer and publisher of the left-wing Village Voice, calls "the most blatant form of voter intimidation I've ever seen"—began on Election Day 2008. Mr. Bull and others witnessed two Black Panthers in paramilitary garb at a polling place near downtown Philadelphia. (Some of this behavior is on YouTube.)

    One of them, they say, brandished a nightstick at the entrance and pointed it at voters and both made racial threats. Mr. Bull says he heard one yell "You are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker!"
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