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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The Republican platform -- here's a list of people we think should not be able to vote....

    Yep, they love democracy. Of the privileged. "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. (well, educated people who own property and would never dream of voting for a liberal anyway)."
    Exactly. They should run on that platform. Make it the centerpiece of the 2012 campaign along with destroying Social Security and Medicare and more tax breaks for the rich and corporations. That is a winning platform if I have ever seen one.
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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Stupid and illiterate people should not be allowed to vote that would mean that Obama would not be in office

    In California it is illegal aliens that flock to vote by mail because you can register and vote and there are no checks yo make sure you are of legal age or here legally.

    Voting is a privilege that that should be closely monitored to insure that voters can at least read English.

    Today there are so many people who are high school graduates that are illiterate it's not funny and most of them are minorities because they come from one parent families and that one parent is also illiterate.

    Most high school graduates these days don't have any clue about the Constitution.

    I registered to vote by mail when I retired and moved back to California. I did it over the Web and it's been almost 4 years and they didn't check a damn thing.
    I could have been a member of the Taliban anf they would never know or care for that matter.
    So...Black people are stupid and illiterate?

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Stupid and illiterate people should not be allowed to vote that would mean that Obama would not be in office

    In California it is illegal aliens that flock to vote by mail because you can register and vote and there are no checks yo make sure you are of legal age or here legally.

    Voting is a privilege that that should be closely monitored to insure that voters can at least read English.

    Today there are so many people who are high school graduates that are illiterate it's not funny and most of them are minorities because they come from one parent families and that one parent is also illiterate.

    Most high school graduates these days don't have any clue about the Constitution.

    I registered to vote by mail when I retired and moved back to California. I did it over the Web and it's been almost 4 years and they didn't check a damn thing.
    I could have been a member of the Taliban anf they would never know or care for that matter.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Exactly. They should run on that platform. Make it the centerpiece of the 2012 campaign along with destroying Social Security and Medicare and more tax breaks for the rich and corporations. That is a winning platform if I have ever seen one.
    Republicans..democrats...I don't think they care whether you are stupid or not so long as you vote for them.

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    The Republicans say they rejected that proposal. How do we not know that this wasn't the actions of an individual?
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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    The calls told tens of thousands of residents to “relax” and not worry about voting, because Democrats had already won.
    In Florida, 2000, some dems around campus didn't bother because the vote was called dem in the afternoon by major networks.

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Stupid and illiterate people should not be allowed to vote that would mean that Obama would not be in office

    In California it is illegal aliens that flock to vote by mail because you can register and vote and there are no checks yo make sure you are of legal age or here legally.

    Voting is a privilege that that should be closely monitored to insure that voters can at least read English.

    Today there are so many people who are high school graduates that are illiterate it's not funny and most of them are minorities because they come from one parent families and that one parent is also illiterate.

    Most high school graduates these days don't have any clue about the Constitution.

    I registered to vote by mail when I retired and moved back to California. I did it over the Web and it's been almost 4 years and they didn't check a damn thing.
    I could have been a member of the Taliban anf they would never know or care for that matter.
    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Voting isn't a right, it is a privilege; however, extending that privilege to pretty much everyone is central to any from of democracy. Just because a person isn't educated does not make their opinion invalid or make them stupid. However, I do stress and tell these people they shouldn't vote unless they know the issues and who the candidates actually are. Thankfully, elections aren't decided by people who don't pay attention.

    Technically you both are wrong. Voting is a right. It is mentioned in the bill of rights multiple times as a right. However it is not a unrestricted right.

    14th amendment
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    Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

    15th amendment section 1
    The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

    19th amendment
    The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

    Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


    24th amendment section 1
    The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.


    26th amendment section 1
    The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to 2012 - The Washington Post



    So we have a dispute between the parties about whether this strategy was used or not. However ...



    I don't particularly care about the charges of whether one race or demographic was favored over another. What I do care about is that voters were flat out lied to, and that sort of thing should be prosecuted as fraud.
    It almost looks like a onion article.

    Republicans Urge Minorities To Get Out And Vote On Nov. 3 | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by makkam View Post
    Republicans..democrats...I don't think they care whether you are stupid or not so long as you vote for them.
    That's what I think also.

    You'd think reading these posts from Cons that everybody who was not so smart voted for Obama. I simply can't believe that's true. It makes absolutely no sense that they got together and voted in a block for an intellectual.

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's what I think also.

    You'd think reading these posts from Cons that everybody who was not so smart voted for Obama. I simply can't believe that's true. It makes absolutely no sense that they got together and voted in a block for an intellectual.

    I do not think that most of the people who voted for Obama are stupid. I do think a significant portion of them just like those who voted for republicans are ignorant when it comes to politics. This does not in any shape or form mean they are stupid. It just means they have not put much time or thought into politics/political issues just like there are some people who do not put much thought or effort into sports, Star Trek/Star Wars, video games, and other ****.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Republican ‘doctrine’ on suppressing black vote is key to Md. case, and maybe to

    We should be working to make it easier for all citizens to vote, not continually throwing up needless obstacles.


    At what length did we go through to ensure that Iraqis were able to vote?
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