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“Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

I'm not giving you a pass. sorry if I piss you off, but if you have been speaking a language for 25 years and you are not comfortable speaking it in front of an official body, maybe you have no business speaking in front of said body.

Good thing I live in a country that respects me enough as a citizen to allow me to do that with an interpreter by my side then. :D

And btw, as I said before, I speak 7 languages. The only language I am 100% comfortable with in ALL situations is French.
 
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He could have asked prior to testifying, maybe informed the committee with a short letter "Hey guys, I speak english but..."

It was, and we can fight over all the silliness in between, the fact in the middle of testimony we learn this advocate for illegals has lived here 23 years and couldn't/wouldn't speak English in the hearing that is the issue.

Doesn't it upset you that what he was there to actually talk about got lost in this ridiculous little sideshow? That senator would have been much better served challenging the pro-illegal arguments the guy was there to defend than to throw a little temper tantrum over what language was being spoken.
 
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thanks for missing the point. it's not that he spoke spanish. it's that he chose to speak spanish to english speakers even though he speaks english.

He had an interpreter, correct? So then, what are you bitching about? Where is the law that states a person has to speak English when addressing a congressman? Where is the law that states a person can't use an interpreter? And how is he a dumbass for not speaking English? I got your point. The problem is, your point is ignorant nonsense.
 
I've heard of all those conflicts, I'm just not convinced the root of them all lies in the fact that people speak different languages. As for Africa, many tribes speak the same language and still hate each other's guts. :shrug:

Language is greatly unifying though, and it's one of the key factors in the us/them equation.
 
Doesn't it upset you that what he was there to actually talk about got lost in this ridiculous little sideshow? That senator would have been much better served challenging the pro-illegal arguments the guy was there to defend than to throw a little temper tantrum over what language was being spoken.

senator made a point and pablo espanol didn't get to read his pro illegal propaganda
 
I have to disagree with you on that. First, I think that there are just as many multi-language countries as there are single-language ones, if not more. And I think those who experience major social and/or political problems as a result of multi-lingualism are the minority. I actually can't think of a single one other than Belgium. So you're gonna have to help me out here with concrete examples.

It's created a lot of ill feeling in Canada between the French and English.

In fact, as we know, it is not a difference between French and English, as is often claimed in Quebec, but between French speakers and English speakers.

Those in Quebec who were raised speaking only French don't feel any less of a Quebecois when they learn English. It does offer them greater opportunity though. to communicate with a broader variety of people, and those who have taken the time to learn English understand that.

Politicians, and those with disruptive political ambitions of any sort, will often use language as a metaphor for other grievances, real or imagined. Politicians will also often speak one point of view in one language and quite a different view in another language, as we have seen in Quebec and we see, even today, in the Middle East. I'm confident it also happens elsewhere.

People, no matter their backgrounds, need a common language with which to communicate. Their second language or culture is less important.

This fellow was probably trying to make the point, as they have similarly done in Canada, that it is Spanish speaking people against the English speaking people, which is false.

Language is a means of communicating, which this fellow on the stand should have been doing, and it should not be used as a political tool.
 
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Language is greatly unifying though, and it's one of the key factors in the us/them equation.

I guess that's true, but humans who speak the same language still figure out a way to create all sorts of "us/them" situations that can often be more insurmountable than any language barrier.

Case in point: Any controversial, gotta take a side debate her at DP. ;)
 
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It's created a lot of ill feeling in Canada between the French and English.

In fact, as we know, it is not a difference between French and English, as is often claimed in Quebec, but between French speakers and English speakers.

Those in Quebec who were raised speaking only French don't feel any less of a Quebecois when they learn English. It does offer them greater opportunity though. to communicate with a broader variety of people, and those who have taken the time to learn English understand that.

Politicians, and those with disruptive political ambitions of any sort, will often use language as a metaphor for other grievances, real or imagined. Politicians will also often speak one point of view in one language and quite a different view in another language, as we have seen in Quebec and we see, even today, in the Middle East. I'm confident it also happens elsewhere.

People, no matter their backgrounds, need a common language with which to communicate. Their second language or culture is less important.

This fellow was probably trying to make the point, as they have similarly done in Canada, that it is Spanish speaking people against the English speaking people, which is false.

Language is a means of communicating, which this fellow on the stand should have been doing, and it should not be used as a political tool.

And yet every time there was a vote, the majority of Quebecois did not want to separate from Canada.

I'm not sure if this guy was trying to make a point or if he was truly self-conscious about his English. All I know is that in his situation, I would feel more comfortable with a professional interpreter by my side, just in case.
 
The senator is a douche. We don't have an official language in the United States, he can speak in whatever language he wants and he feels more comfortable speaking in Spanish, then whatever. People need to stop getting "insulted" when others speak another language.

He was speaking to a comittee all of whom spoke English and I doubt if any spoke Spanish. It was insulting, rude and grandstanding for the man to speak Spanish if he was capable of speaking English.
 
He was speaking to a comittee all of whom spoke English and I doubt if any spoke Spanish. It was insulting, rude and grandstanding for the man to speak Spanish if he was capable of speaking English.
Only if you choose to be insulted.
 
And yet every time there was a vote, the majority of Quebecois did not want to separate from Canada.

I'm not sure if this guy was trying to make a point or if he was truly self-conscious about his English. All I know is that in his situation, I would feel more comfortable with a professional interpreter by my side, just in case.

That's true though it was a squeaker at one time. The main issue has always been language, despite all the other values and similarities we share.

Either he was trying to make a political point or he was a poor representative to the issue he was representing. His presentation, at least what I saw of it, was a string of cliches.
 
And yet every time there was a vote, the majority of Quebecois did not want to separate from Canada.

I'm not sure if this guy was trying to make a point or if he was truly self-conscious about his English. All I know is that in his situation, I would feel more comfortable with a professional interpreter by my side, just in case.

Actually, when you consider that Quebecois are generally regarded as French-speaking people from Quebec, a majority DID vote for separation in the last referendum, by a pretty large margin. It was the English-speakers in the province who turned it the other way, by the slimmest of margins... after some shady and controversial shenanigans by the union side...
 
Doesn't it upset you that what he was there to actually talk about got lost in this ridiculous little sideshow? That senator would have been much better served challenging the pro-illegal arguments the guy was there to defend than to throw a little temper tantrum over what language was being spoken.


No, not at all. He came in with the intent of political theater, and got smacked down for it.
 
What does that have to with anything?

the committee has a right to speak whatever language they want... them answering him in german would be just as appropriate as him speaking to them in spanish. bull**** works both ways
 
Well **** you folks have been here 250 years or some **** and you still can't speak apache?

For ****ing shame :lol:
 
Well **** you folks have been here 250 years or some **** and you still can't speak apache?

For ****ing shame :lol:


Why should we? It's a dead language.....Should we speak sand-script also?


j-mac
 
Well **** you folks have been here 250 years or some **** and you still can't speak apache?

For ****ing shame :lol:

No, but I know all the words to "Cherokee People" and "One Tin Soldier." Does that count?
 
At the request of the local Israel consulate, I have served as a Hebrew/English translator for US and Israeli officials. The main challenge encompasses conveying the correct nuance.

I have a difficult time believing that anyone who has lived in a country for 23 years lacks the lingual capacity/dexterity to convey the requisite nuance.

My parent with virtually no education compared to you, learned English; and most certainly were fluent after 23 years here.
 
the committee has a right to speak whatever language they want... them answering him in german would be just as appropriate as him speaking to them in spanish. bull**** works both ways
well according to you speaking in German would be disrespectful, so...
 
No, not at all. He came in with the intent of political theater, and got smacked down for it.
"Smack down" is in the eye of the beholder. All I saw was a neanderthal committee member interrupting some guy for doing something that it isn't his job to question or stop.
 
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