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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    What's naive about looking at past trends in language learning and applying them to the future? If second generations have consistently learned English and if English continues to be the language of popular culture and money, how is it naive to think the pattern will continue?
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    This has nothing to do with political correctness - this has to do with the market and businesses wanting to cater to a certain population for money. Moreover, none of this suggests English is in danger - college requires English and high paying jobs require English. And again, popular culture is primarily English and young people always want to be a part of that. Let's not also forget that education is in English.

    Is that so? English in the West, and South is in some cases being taught as a secondary language.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is that so? English in the West, and South is in some cases being taught as a secondary language.

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    For many there it is a second language. ANd I'm not talking about immigrants.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Ignoring a major force on society. Change.
    Right. There have to be foundations for change - no signs point in that direction. Until Spanish becomes the language of popular culture and money, I think we're safe.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is that so? English in the West, and South is in some cases being taught as a secondary language.

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    I don't believe you. American classes in American schools are taught in English. Maybe you're talking about classes that teach English to kids who don't know it, but this just further proves my point.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I don't believe you. American classes in American schools are taught in English. Maybe you're talking about classes that teach English to kids who don't know it, but this just further proves my point.
    To be fair, Engish as a second language is taught in English. And for many native speakers, it is like a second language, sadly.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Is that the language spoken by the Sand People on Tatooine???
    Is he trying to come up with Sanskrit?

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Right. There have to be foundations for change - no signs point in that direction. Until Spanish becomes the language of popular culture and money, I think we're safe.
    No foundation, huh?

    Spanish-language news growing in the U.S. - Editors Weblog
    GALAxy Newsletter | A Growing Market: Spanish Speakers in the US | Globalization and Localization Association
    The Growing Hispanic Market in the United States
    The Growing Importance Of Spanish Translation For US Businesses - In Translation - Zimbio
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    And my foundation is 88% and 94% of 2nd and 3rd generation Americans of Spanish-speaking households are fluent in English, immigrants have consistently learned English in history, English remains the language of popular culture, English remains the language of money. If you're claiming that believing English will remain dominant is "naive" in light of all this, then you're just incapable of seeing anything outside of your own predictions about the future as plausible and that's your problem. Spanish may become dominant and I don't think it's naive to make that prediction. Nonetheless, history and popular/money culture say otherwise.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Perhaps we've stumbled across why the interpreter was there.

    The fact that he has lived in the US for 23 years suggests strongly that his English was sufficient enough to make himself understood when giving a presentation.

    However, as the "The Growing Importance Of Spanish Translation For US Businesses" suggests, translation is a growing business and as the courts usually pay for these translators it's an opportunity to make a political point, as well as allowing a friend to make a few bucks.

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