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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    The guy spoke and understood English fluently. He was making a point, and the point he was making is that even though he chose to leave his country of origin and chose to become an American, he did not choose to become a part of the melting pot that is American culture. Instead, he wants America to conform to the culture of his country of origin. As far as the "speaking from the heart" thing, the dude was reading a speech that was already written down.

    There are probably a hundred languages spoken in America by immigrants from around the world. Why is it that a single language, Spanish, should be elevated to the point where there are almost as many radio and tv programs in that language as there are in English? There is little incentive for the hispanic community to learn English, because everything they need is available in Spanish. That forms a core separation between them and the rest of America, and that core separation will eventually lead to resentment. When one walks into a restaurant or a retail establishment on American soil, it's not unreasonable to expect those who work there to speak English so that they can communicate with their customers, yet in all too many places throughout the country this is not the case. It is incredibly frustrating to ask a clerk or a server a question about the product or establishment, only to be met with "No habla English."

    Now I wouldn't have been particularly ticked off at the guy shown in the OP if he wasn't introducing himself as a hispanic activist... he did not identify himself as an American, and to me that's a problem... then proceed to rattle off in Spanish opposition to a proposed law that he believed would harm hispanics. America cannot be a melting pot when 40 million folks have decided to rope themselves off from the rest of the country, and consider themselves only Hispanic rather than American. That's happening far too often amongst Latino activists, and I don't see it as a positive thing for the country as a whole.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    that's why we are having this discussion. you guys just can't/won't see the point. it's really not about him speaking spanish.

    as for grandma...if she'd been using a keyboard for twenty three years and was still useless at it, the she is a dumbass or hasn't been trying to learn

    this guy has been speaking english for TWENTY THREE YEARS
    He's been LIVING in this country for twenty-three years. Not an unsubtle difference. Some people don't adjust well to their new environments and prefer to stick with what's familiar. I really don't see the need for all this populist outrage at him not being able to speak English well. It's a free country, and English isn't the declared official language of Texas nor the country as a whole. He could do better, but I don't see the need for people to get their panties all up in a bunch just cuz this dude was in America 23 years and can't speak English well. Being a first-generation American myself, I know plenty of people like that and I'm not bitching about it because I can see the reasons behind their behavior. People generally don't go out and do new things unless they have a lot of time and curiosity on their hands, or until they are forced to.

    Bottom line: Yeah, the dude could do better. But I don't see why people are getting sand in their vaginas all over this.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    The country needs a single national language to promote unity in the country. This is done all over the world. The vast majority of bi/multi-lingual countries in the world have serious problems and issues relating to differing ethno-linguistic identities in the country. It is important for the U.S. to establish English as the official working language of the country and immigrants need to make an effort to learn the language -- and be given an incentive to do so.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    there is a difference between "having a right to" and "being qualified to". if you have been in the US for 23 years and can't speak english well enough to speak it in front of a committee, you are not qualified (due to lack of intelligence or effort) to speak, no matter what your "rights" are.
    If you've a right to, you're qualified to. There should never be any additional requirements for addressing your elected representatives.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    if he isn't comfortable speaking english after twenty freakin three years, then he is either a dumb **** or he has put zero effort into assimilating into the culture. in either case, his opinion is worth bupkiss
    Zero effort? He can speak English as a second language -- I'd say that's a lot more than zero effort.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    this guy has been speaking english for TWENTY THREE YEARS
    ...which means he's put in more than zero effort which means your entire line of argument IS A LINE OF CRAP
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    The guy spoke and understood English fluently. He was making a point, and the point he was making is that even though he chose to leave his country of origin and chose to become an American, he did not choose to become a part of the melting pot that is American culture. Instead, he wants America to conform to the culture of his country of origin. As far as the "speaking from the heart" thing, the dude was reading a speech that was already written down..


    for emphasis. DiAnna gets it.


    this is the freakin point.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    still missing it. if he's been speaking it for 23 years and he still isn't comfortable with it...he really hasn't put much, if any, effort into it
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post



    for emphasis. DiAnna gets it.


    this is the freakin point.
    No, DiAnna doesn't get it. Neither do you. He specifically said it was because it was his first time -- not because he was making a point about not assimilating.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    still missing it. if he's been speaking it for 23 years and he still isn't comfortable with it...he really hasn't put much, if any, effort into it
    Wow, that was awfully mature of you, turning my entire statement into a crybaby smilie. Gosh, you totally defeated my argument with your eloquence. I'm in awe.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No, DiAnna doesn't get it. Neither do you. He specifically said it was because it was his first time -- not because he was making a point about not assimilating.
    No, DiAnna gets it. If you ignore what a person says (and over 30 pages of discussion) you can pretend that person said anything.

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