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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I agree about the insulted part, but English is the de facto official language of the us. We have enough misunderstandings in politics driving us apart....we don't need another one. We need to embrace diversity, but we also need a common language to unite diverse groups.
    Yes, this is an example of what I call a healthy balance between multiculturalism and assimilation.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    The bolded bit applies, AND it is what most of us are reacting to.
    No. It's rude to speak a different language specifically for the purpose of excluding someone else. It's not rude to speak a different language and use a translator when you're in a situation where you're nervous or feeling pressured or want to make sure you get it right the first time.

    It's also absurd to accuse someone of being rude while you yourself are being rude, as that Senator did.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    That's nice, but only if you can speak Mandarin reasonably well, which I believe you can. That's likely not the case for Mr. Aguirre, regardless of whether people want to blame him for his lack of proficiency or not.
    23 years and he can't speak English reasonably well? Why should lawmakers take him seriously if that is the case?
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No. It's rude to speak a different language specifically for the purpose of excluding someone else. It's not rude to speak a different language and use a translator when you're in a situation where you're nervous or feeling pressured or want to make sure you get it right the first time.

    It's also absurd to accuse someone of being rude while you yourself are being rude, as that Senator did.
    I don't believe the Senator was being rude. I believe he was asking a very legitimate question. If you think THAT was rude, you have never observed controversial Senate hearings before. That was positively sedate compared to some of the things I saw and heard in Washington.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    23 years and he can't speak English reasonably well? Why should lawmakers take him seriously if that is the case?
    I don't believe that whether or not a person speaks English well should have a bearing on the perceived importance or relevance of their testimony. Just sayin'.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I don't believe the Senator was being rude.
    You don't believe it's rude to interrupt someone when they're talking?
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    At the request of the local Israel consulate, I have served as a Hebrew/English translator for US and Israeli officials. The main challenge encompasses conveying the correct nuance.

    I have a difficult time believing that anyone who has lived in a country for 23 years lacks the lingual capacity/dexterity to convey the requisite nuance.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You don't believe it's rude to interrupt someone when they're talking?
    The Senators have that perogative in a Senate hearing... Have you ever seen or attended a Senate hearing in Washington before? Happens all the time...
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    ...Unless of course the "victim" turns the tables, a la George Galloway, and wipes the floor with his interrogators.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    He chose to have an interpreter because he felt more comfortable speaking Spanish, his first language. The US doesn't have an official language making Spanish a legitimate way to communicate.


    I'm not questioning his rights.
    We don't need an official language, get off it. Your **** is getting old and tired.
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