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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I disagree because it's your country and you can speak whatever you feel comfortable speaking. This argument only works if the United States belongs to English speaking people, but it doesn't as evidenced by the fact that 1) No official language. 2) A lot of Spanish speaking Americans here.

    I honestly cannot see myself being offended if I were a Senator in that room which is why the "rudeness" of it all is not making sense to me.
    If you speak the common language in a room and you choose to speak a language most in the room do not understand, it is rude. If I am in a room with Mandarin speakers, do you think I speak English around them? Rediculous...
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Well, some European countries are legitimately multi-lingual. You drive from one of of the Belgium to the other, and the signs change from French to German. They've been that way for ages.

    But that is not the case in America.

    Not sure what this has to do with "our advantages" though.
    For the record, only a very tiny portion of Belgium speaks German.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    If you speak the common language in a room and you choose to speak a language most in the room do not understand, it is rude. If I am in a room with Mandarin speakers, do you think I speak English around them? Rediculous...
    Right, which is why you would have a Mandarin translator like the the guy had an English translator.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The two are not mutually exclusive. A larger portion of the country now speaks spanish that a few years ago. That is catching up.
    Oh, come on. That is like saying the Pats have a 50-7 lead but the Lions score a field goal to make it 50-10... the Lions are catching up...
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, the guy has been in the country 23 years. Unsubtle difference.
    And as he has been in the U.S., he should be able to communicate in English. I have lived in Taiwan for nine years and I can communicate pretty effectively in Chinese (though add two years in residence in China as well). 23 years vs. 11 years... he should be able to commuicate effectively in English.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Right, which is why you would have a Mandarin translator like the the guy had an English translator.
    No, I would speak Mandarin... silly...
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    "I think the question you have to ask is, do you have a civic duty to learn English if you want to live in this country?" said Tim Schultz, Director of Government Affairs for US English, a group working to make English the country's official language. "This man had lived in this country for more than 22 years, and I think most people would think that is a reasonable request."
    That's all well and good, but reasonable request =/= civic duty.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    If you speak the common language in a room and you choose to speak a language most in the room do not understand, it is rude. If I am in a room with Mandarin speakers, do you think I speak English around them? Rediculous...
    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Right, which is why you would have a Mandarin translator like the the guy had an English translator.
    The bolded bit applies, AND it is what most of us are reacting to.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The senator is a douche. We don't have an official language in the United States, he can speak in whatever language he wants and he feels more comfortable speaking in Spanish, then whatever. People need to stop getting "insulted" when others speak another language.
    I agree about the insulted part, but English is the de facto official language of the us. We have enough misunderstandings in politics driving us apart....we don't need another one. We need to embrace diversity, but we also need a common language to unite diverse groups.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    If you speak the common language in a room and you choose to speak a language most in the room do not understand, it is rude. If I am in a room with Mandarin speakers, do you think I speak English around them? Rediculous...
    That's nice, but only if you can speak Mandarin reasonably well, which I believe you can. That's likely not the case for Mr. Aguirre, regardless of whether people want to blame him for his lack of proficiency or not.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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