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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The senator is a douche. We don't have an official language in the United States, he can speak in whatever language he wants and he feels more comfortable speaking in Spanish, then whatever. People need to stop getting "insulted" when others speak another language.
    I'm only up to this post, so somebody probably already made my point. But would you move to another country, knowing you don't speak their language, and make no effort to learn it? In 23 years, he should be able to (and probably is able to) speak fluent English. I don't know why he chose to go the interpreter route.

    I believe the senator had the same right to speak his mind, as pointed out, as any other American would have.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    his outrage is only warrantless in some people's opinion.

    just as this guy is entitled to speak spanish....this senator is entitled to his outrage. it is still a free country afterall. freedom has to work in both directions or it really isn't free.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    his outrage is only warrantless in some people's opinion.

    just as this guy is entitled to speak spanish....this senator is entitled to his outrage. it is still a free country afterall. freedom has to work in both directions or it really isn't free.
    He's entitled to his outrage, nobody is saying he isn't. Doesn't make it any less stupid, just as some people think not learning English is stupid.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I agree with everything you said. Nonetheless, I think it's ridiculous to be "insulted" as the senator claimed to be in the video and I also think it's ridiculous to applaud the senator for being insulted as Mr. V. did. There are obviously many practical reasons to speak English instead of Spanish and yet it's also understandable to me why someone would want to speak Spanish in such a hearing as a statement. To me, it's just arrogant and silly to be insulted by something that isn't insulting.
    I can't speak for him, but I would be insulted that he tried to use the translator situation to advance an agenda. I'd also be insulted that he wasted my time. How much longer would that hearing be, simply by virtue of an English-capable gentleman choosing to go the translator route?

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I'm only up to this post, so somebody probably already made my point. But would you move to another country, knowing you don't speak their language, and make no effort to learn it? In 23 years, he should be able to (and probably is able to) speak fluent English. I don't know why he chose to go the interpreter route.
    He chose to have an interpreter because he felt more comfortable speaking Spanish, his first language. The US doesn't have an official language making Spanish a legitimate way to communicate.

    I believe the senator had the same right to speak his mind, as pointed out, as any other American would have.
    I'm not questioning his rights.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I can't speak for him, but I would be insulted that he tried to use the translator situation to advance an agenda. I'd also be insulted that he wasted my time. How much longer would that hearing be, simply by virtue of an English-capable gentleman choosing to go the translator route?
    And I wouldn't be insulted, at all. I don't know how much longer it would be. For all you know, it might have been longer.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    He's entitled to his outrage, nobody is saying he isn't. .
    actually, they have been.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    actually, they have been.
    can't speak for those people. I just think getting angry over this is making a mountain out of a molehill, but i don't question the senator's RIGHT to be angry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Don't understand what there is to BRAVO about. Is it kinda sad that he failed to learn English in his 23 years here? Hell yeah. Does it warrant petty outrage on the part of the Senator? No. You just applauded an individual for getting a stick up in his ass about nothing that was particularly significant. This kind of faux anger makes about as much sense as getting mad at Grandma for not being able to type or use a computer.
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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    It's like saying that because no one has bothered to ban riding camels down the highway that someone from Saudi Arabia should be allowed to hold up traffic by riding their camel down 494.
    I want to like that more than once.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Miami and a crap ton of other places in the United States disagree. Spanish first, English second. Moreover, the fact that businesses all have a press #2 for Spanish and that students are being encouraged to learn Spanish before all other languages shows you where Spanish is in our country.
    Do you speak Spanish?

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