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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Although I personally am not opposed to the idea of a national language, I think this reasoning would make sense if we were talking about other countries (certain countries in Europe, a significant number of countries in Africa, and some Asian countries). Not so much the US when we're talking about regionalism on a national scale.
    We have regionalism under the surface. People in New Orleans are very different than people in Boston, etc. Some of this, of course, is natural as there are different resource and environmental considerations. However, that regionalism is also minimized because we have national communication infrastructure, such as cable TV or clear channel owned radio stations, which serves to harmonize society a bit. If we had a large population, such as in south florida that did not understand english or had a significant population that did not, creating a subculture, communication becomes difficult and the exchange of cultural ideas gets cut off. Meaning that the cultures will drift further apart, creating political problems that we don't need in this nation right now.

    I don't necessarily want my culture to prevail, but I do want the exchange of ideas to speed up and our national conversation to be faster, increasing the resolution of so many of our political issues that are at the root culture differences. That way we can actually better focus on progressing the country and solving real problems.

    I would be just as happy if we had robotic (or fish based) translators. I don't care how, but speaking with our peers is very important.

    I guess an analogy is that I would prefer not there to be black or white people, but for everyone to be a nice shade of (light or dark, I don't care) tan or whatever the average color would be for the whole human race. So we can get over that issue and focus on issues of importance.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by BentWingedAngel View Post
    IMO There never was a deliberate decision against making English the official language of the United States. With English as the language of the Constitution, the Founding Fathers, and the vast majority of the population, a declaration of English as our official language may have seemed superfluous. Quite simply, it may not have occurred to them to do so.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It feels uncomfortable because it is mindless populism in action. The only thing that should have mattered is whether the guy could make his points. But when you cannot argue against points, you take cheap shots that will be popular with the weak minded.
    I want a refund of my tax $$$$ for the time he wasted by making the senate panel (whom we pay) sit and listen to his translator.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    That has nothing to do with how many of them are official. It has to do with education - Europe values being culturally literate and teaches their students accordingly. They should. But it has nothing to do with necessity or the law.
    Laws will not help this situation. People will more and more have to deal with others that do not speak English and live with it. I personally see no problem with people speaking any language they want. People calling for a unified language at this point in time are fighting a losing battle.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    then maybe he should have spoken the language that most of his audience does....instead of relying on a translator
    Getting one's point across involves communicating as effectively as possible. If he could speak English, but it sucked, or if he had a thick accent, or if he spoke English slowly or haltingly, then in practical terms it makes a hell of a lot more sense to speak through a translator.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Does he speak english as well as spanish? If not, he may have chosen the language he is most comfortable in to ensure he got his point across in something as important as Senate testimony.
    yes, the guy has been speaking english for 23 years. that's why it is so stupid.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    then maybe he should have spoken the language that most of his audience does....instead of relying on a translator
    My point is that he may have not felt that he could communicate his ideas as well as a translator. I would certainly do better with a French translator than speaking French myself in France.

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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Why didn't he just translate his Spanish to English after he said it in Spanish? Why hire a translator? Dumbass..


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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I want a refund of my tax $$$$ for the time he wasted by making the senate panel (whom we pay) sit and listen to his translator.
    This has to be the whiniest, stupidest thing posted today.
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    Re: “Why Aren’t You Speaking English?”

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Hispanic Americans: Census Facts — Infoplease.com

    According to that link Since the 1990's the Spanish speaking population has more than doubled. If more people are speaking Spanish and there is more accommodation for that, people are less likely to learn English. If there was no need to do so why would you? They can function in the neighborhoods easily. When you consider Texas, California, and Arizona which are nearing the 50% mark how much English do the Hispanics have to know. Some schools teach in Spanish. The language will become more prevalent over time. I don't think it will pass English any time soon but it is something that English speaking Americans will have to come to terms with.
    I never said they don't speak Spanish. I just said they also speak English. Which means this is a non-issue, in the same way that everyone in my grandmother's town can still speak Italian but they also speak English is a non-issue.

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