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    Re: 10 U.S. lawmakers sue Obama over Libya strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    exactly, how else would you explain 70% of the country screaming at the top of their lungs, NO OBAMACARE.. and congress doing it anyway.
    right in our face..

    you will pay the price for such audasity
    It also explains the Department of Homeland Security and a LOT of other things.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: 10 U.S. lawmakers sue Obama over Libya strikes

    But I bet none of them had any problems with the outright lies the Bush administration used to invade Iraq nor any problems with the amount of Americans killed as a result of their lies. Nor do they seemingly have any issues with the 6.6 billion tax payer dollars stolen in Iraq. Nope, the #1 killer of Americans over the past decade is living peacefully in Crawford, Texas. The #2 killer, Bin Laden was not so lucky!

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    Re: 10 U.S. lawmakers sue Obama over Libya strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The highest court was created in part to get in the midle of an argument between the President and Congress. Congress has ceded too much of its power and destroyed the checks and balances which are meant to be in place, particularly where the military is concerned. I damned well hope that more lawmakers join in and that we put the proper restraints on the power of the President. The President is 1 guy, he wasn't meant to have all the power. It needs to be handled and this has to result in lessening the Presidents power to use our military any way he sees fit.
    the president's power to deploy the military should be left, as is, with the restraints put into place by the war powers act. Instead, people need to become more responsible citizens, by being more informed.

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    Re: 10 U.S. lawmakers sue Obama over Libya strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by W00ster View Post
    But I bet none of them had any problems with the outright lies the Bush administration used to invade Iraq nor any problems with the amount of Americans killed as a result of their lies. Nor do they seemingly have any issues with the 6.6 billion tax payer dollars stolen in Iraq. Nope, the #1 killer of Americans over the past decade is living peacefully in Crawford, Texas. The #2 killer, Bin Laden was not so lucky!
    Bush lied? Really?

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    Re: 10 U.S. lawmakers sue Obama over Libya strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    the president's power to deploy the military should be left, as is, with the restraints put into place by the war powers act. Instead, people need to become more responsible citizens, by being more informed.
    He should be able to deploy the troops....after he gets Congress's approval.
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    Re: 10 U.S. lawmakers sue Obama over Libya strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    the president's power to deploy the military should be left, as is, with the restraints put into place by the war powers act.
    The WPA is poorly designed and begs for abuse.

    It needs to be scrapped and redone.
    It should not be the case that we can be at war for years and years under the auspices of the WPA. That's not what the intent of the things were and it circumvents the vital checks on the PotUS's powers.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: 10 U.S. lawmakers sue Obama over Libya strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    10 U.S. lawmakers sue Obama over Libya strikes - CBS News



    This will go exactly nowhere. Even the highest court has proven to be extremely reluctant to get in the middle of an argument between the President and Congress.
    It's just testing the water for possible impeachment hearings next week. I think the WPA is fine and Obama has not yet violated it.
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    Re: 10 U.S. lawmakers sue Obama over Libya strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    He should be able to deploy the troops....after he gets Congress's approval.
    Because the last war that congress approved was a great one, right? It did so much for the U.S. And the world. And it was all for a just, honest cause, correct?

    The idea that Congress is some sort of moralistic balance on the PoTUS' powers is fallacious. Congress will go to war if it makes them richer and they can spin it into a good thing in the eyes of the American Public, whether or not it's actually good for the rest of America.

    Congress is corrupt.

    I think the Bush Administration and the Congress while he was in power proved that.

    War, actual war, is something that should be voted upon by the American People, just like the election for President.
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    Re: 10 U.S. lawmakers sue Obama over Libya strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsAProcess View Post
    Because the last war that congress approved was a great one, right? It did so much for the U.S. And the world. And it was all for a just, honest cause, correct?
    Yeah, what's your point?

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    Re: 10 U.S. lawmakers sue Obama over Libya strikes

    My point is that you say 'after he gets Congress' approval'. Like Congress approving a war automatically makes the war a justified one, a good one, one that is for the best of America and the American People.


    This isn't so.

    My point was sarcasm. The 'War on Terror' was terrible for America and for the American People. The only people it really benefited for a surety were the military-industrial complex and politicians with ties to said military-industrial complex.


    That was my point.
    Last edited by ItsAProcess; 06-15-11 at 09:04 PM.

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