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    Re: Judgement day: Weiner's wife returns home to confront errant husband as new image

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    If you cannot keep your word to the person in your life you've pledge in front of God and Family that you would be faithful too...

    How can we trust you with other important matters? Cheating shows that said person is incapable of keeping their word, that if it benefits them, they'll do it.

    It's a lack of integrity that's the issue.
    I'll ask the question nobody has answered. Does cheating negate the ability of somebody in the private sector to do their job? Should they be fired if it is found that they have cheated?
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    Re: Judgement day: Weiner's wife returns home to confront errant husband as new image

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Regarding the U.S. House:


    So that's 244 representatives or elected officials, including New York's two senators and governor.

    So 5 of 244 is 2% approximately.

    Now, in the private sector:


    So...there ya go.
    New...York...City.

    Not talking about the state.

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    Re: Judgement day: Weiner's wife returns home to confront errant husband as new image

    I was the first one here to predict the Clintons, for whom Huma works, will try to rescue Man from Weiner. Go to the polls forum and check it out.
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    Re: Judgement day: Weiner's wife returns home to confront errant husband as new image

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What? do you think it is appropriate for a 40 something year old man to be even in the position of having the accusation leveled, especially when he is supposed to be representing a district of people and their concerns in Congress?



    You don't have any standards of behavior for whom you vote for? really? They are supposed to be vetted by the media, throughout their campaign, but increasingly we have learned through practice that the so called media has an agenda as well.

    As to my boss, and the company I work for, I am pretty sure that if it was out in the news that he was sexting nude pics to multiple women, and possibly an underage girl, then yeah, he'd be out in a NY second.



    You think sending pics of your junk turns women on? heh, not hardly...But it is perverted. It is the modern day equivalent of flashing.



    Yet, you believe that people in those positions of power have no obligation to any kind of moral standards?



    First off, you can't compare some middle management slug to a US Congressman. If anything, the comparison would be between an executive of a company, and I can assure you that a scandal of this nature would result in immediate termination.



    the calls for resignation were out before this lame attempt.



    Abuse of power, and abuse of time, and services are all in play here. We already know that some of the pics were taken in the Congressional gym, and the phone calls were made from his Congressional phone. That is using time, and services for this crap. As for power, you don't think that a Congressman uses his position to sext women is an abuse of power?



    No offense taken, we are just talking here, however, I am not grasping at straws either. I am offering an opinion of how any congressman should be treated in his position.

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    I have expectations for behavior, yes. But I do not expect perfection. Indescretions happen and I'm not naive enough to think we're going to find a monk to run for office.

    It is not the media's responsibility to tell us everything, report on everything. We need to investigate and determine for ourselves.

    I seriously doubt they'd fire the CEO of Amazon if they found out he'd exchanged naughty pictures with somebody online.

    I would hardly call it the equivalent of flashing, and I struggle with the label of "perverse" dependent upon the desire of the woman to take part.

    As for abuse of time...If he's in the congressional gym it is likely that he was on "personal time"; meaning the house was not in session and he was utilizing services allotted as a perk. If he had been on the floor, in a meeting, at a committee conference, etc. I would agree with theft of time. As far as the phone goes, my understanding was they were investigating whether or not he had used his govt-issued phone, not that it had been determined that he had.

    As far as the moral standard question...I expect people to be people. I expect my elected officials to avoid bribes, lobby influence, and criminal action. I expect them to perform their job honestly and with integrity. I do not expect them to live a specific type of private life, nor do I condemn them for not living up to some arbitrary standard of moral behavior within their private lives. I want the govt. out of my bedroom and I'll stay out of theirs. Any sexual misconduct on the part of an elected official affects only those involved in those actions (and/or the spouse). Unless they have been proven to ahve broken a law, their private mistakes and decisions are theirs and should not be a basis for whether or not they are allowed to continue doing their job.
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    Re: Judgement day: Weiner's wife returns home to confront errant husband as new image

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    New...York...City.

    Not talking about the state.
    That was not something you clarified until after I had begun working on that post. Either way, the point stands. Elected officials are no more likely to be dishonest or unfaithful than their private sector counterparts.
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    Re: Judgement day: Weiner's wife returns home to confront errant husband as new image

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    That was not something you clarified until after I had begun working on that post. Either way, the point stands. Elected officials are no more likely to be dishonest or unfaithful than their private sector counterparts.
    I pointed it out in post 23.

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    Re: Judgement day: Weiner's wife returns home to confront errant husband as new image

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'll ask the question nobody has answered. Does cheating negate the ability of somebody in the private sector to do their job? Should they be fired if it is found that they have cheated?
    If I had an employee in a position of trust (Supervisor/Manager level) yes, I would fire them.
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    Re: Judgement day: Weiner's wife returns home to confront errant husband as new image

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'll ask the question nobody has answered. Does cheating negate the ability of somebody in the private sector to do their job? Should they be fired if it is found that they have cheated?
    I would say yes, yes they would be fired. If you don't think so then you really have no idea what a "morals clause" in many contracts of CEOs are do you?

    I have expectations for behavior, yes. But I do not expect perfection. Indescretions happen and I'm not naive enough to think we're going to find a monk to run for office.
    these are not just minor indiscretions, they are serious flaws in character, and morals. How long did Wiener lie openly to the people about this? What was it, 8 days, day after day, question after question, outright, boldfaced lying....But you're ok with that?

    It is not the media's responsibility to tell us everything, report on everything. We need to investigate and determine for ourselves.
    What? Where do you get this stuff.

    I seriously doubt they'd fire the CEO of Amazon if they found out he'd exchanged naughty pictures with somebody online.
    then you have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about.

    As for abuse of time...If he's in the congressional gym it is likely that he was on "personal time"; meaning the house was not in session and he was utilizing services allotted as a perk. If he had been on the floor, in a meeting, at a committee conference, etc. I would agree with theft of time. As far as the phone goes, my understanding was they were investigating whether or not he had used his govt-issued phone, not that it had been determined that he had.
    right, a service. need I remind you of what you said? Now you qualify it after it is undeniable that he was misusing a service?

    As far as the moral standard question...I expect people to be people. I expect my elected officials to avoid bribes, lobby influence, and criminal action. I expect them to perform their job honestly and with integrity. I do not expect them to live a specific type of private life, nor do I condemn them for not living up to some arbitrary standard of moral behavior within their private lives. I want the govt. out of my bedroom and I'll stay out of theirs. Any sexual misconduct on the part of an elected official affects only those involved in those actions (and/or the spouse). Unless they have been proven to ahve broken a law, their private mistakes and decisions are theirs and should not be a basis for whether or not they are allowed to continue doing their job.
    And how much integrity does Wiener have in your eyes after repeated lies, and the crap he was involved in here? You think that shows integrity?

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    Re: Judgement day: Weiner's wife returns home to confront errant husband as new image

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'll ask the question nobody has answered. Does cheating negate the ability of somebody in the private sector to do their job? Should they be fired if it is found that they have cheated?
    And one thing that hasn't come up is the possibility that his wife knows and is cool with it.

    Some people are "freakier" than others.
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