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    Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Anti-Union Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I don't how people don't get how unethical it is for state employees to form a union.
    They get to elect their own bosses.

    Not cool.
    And don't non-union workers have the same advantages? How is it ethical for republicans to vote in representives that do their local will? Isn't that what American government is about? Putting in power those who make your lifestyle better in some way? And is this voting also unethical??
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    Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Anti-Union Bill

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    You are free to find the socialist paradise of your choice instead of trying to force it on us.
    But then we cant live in solidarity with one another


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    Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Anti-Union Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    And don't non-union workers have the same advantages? How is it ethical for republicans to vote in representives that do their local will? Isn't that what American government is about? Putting in power those who make your lifestyle better in some way? And is this voting also unethical??
    Non union state workers already have a method for influencing their bosses.
    They can vote for them.
    They don't need another level of influence, like the monetary supporter of an organized union to advance their careers.

    The rest of the tax paying public does not get to vote for their employers, who promise pay raises, relaxed hours or greater benefits.
    It's completely wrong to allow state employees, who can already vote, to unionize.
    Who are they being protected against, themselves?
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    Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Anti-Union Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    in favor of what? government cronies manipulating labor to line their own pockets? the union bosses may as well be corporate CEO's.
    both soak the blood of the worker up for ill gained profit. the government has already usurped the need for unions. you're asking the
    worker to double pay for services rendered. you're asking the worker to be twice the slave he already is.
    I was Union all my working years, about 25 years, until I retired at 45. I have two relatives that are Union representatives, and I fail to find any of your accusations accurate. They are paid worker scale wages & the same benefits as I made. Only difference they were representing us to make our life better, and we were working. Where is the blood Lew? You should realize that Unions are about making workers life's better & more secure in the workplace. Why would anyone resent that? Here we have a capitalist nation, and people are decrying workers making money & benefits & having a secure future. What the heck do you work for Lew? To give your boss your money, never have anything and die at a young age? Do you bend over when the boss tells you to work for less?
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    Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Anti-Union Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    Yep, you will probably get your wish. When corporate America takes final control you will be a slave and won't have to pay taxes,... just labor in exchange for a bowl of gruel.
    In your opinion how would that happen? How would corporate America "take over"? In your mind is "corporate America" the same thing as the "federal government"? Is it a single entity with a President? Where does "corporate America" get its power? How would it make me do anything?

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    Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Anti-Union Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    Not you! We are not in a box. Recall Global domination over worker wages. China is on the rise, Europe will buy our trinkets. This nation would survive without 1 consumer. Except it will be a Corporate run government not stopped by regulations like monopolies to take everything over, lock stock & barrel, including you, future slave. You will work for whatever they tell you, and offer up the corporate store. No need for taxes, just labor for value, like a cup of soup for 4 hours labor.
    LOL. Below you name it says you are an educator.

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    Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Anti-Union Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    I was Union all my working years, about 25 years, until I retired at 45 ..........
    That right there points to what a cancer unions are on the rest of America.

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    Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Anti-Union Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Eastern Europe is now more progressive than Wisconsin. Pathetic.
    What's pathetic is that you believe Wisconsin somehow did something wrong.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Anti-Union Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    LOL. Below you name it says you are an educator.
    It explains the fear of this anti-public union movement.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Anti-Union Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    I was Union all my working years, about 25 years, until I retired at 45.

    45? And who pays your pension? Your whole life seems to depend on taking from others. What do you give?

    I have two relatives that are Union representatives, and I fail to find any of your accusations accurate.
    Two more sponges? so what.

    They are paid worker scale wages & the same benefits as I made.
    So their benefits, and wage hasn't risen since your retirement? They must not be very good at their job.

    Only difference they were representing us to make our life better, and we were working.
    And you needed them to do that for you? Why?

    Where is the blood Lew?
    What blood? Are you calling for violence?

    You should realize that Unions are about making workers life's better & more secure in the workplace.
    Tell that to the teachers laid off when the union wouldn't make concessions

    Tell that to the millions out there looking for jobs in this economy that Obama can't get right due to socialist constructs like the ones unionization present.

    Tell that to Flint Mi.

    Why would anyone resent that?
    Maybe you're fine with being a sub par worker that made his wage off the backs of those who had to pull your weight because the union said so....Not me pal, I take pride in what I do, and I don't look for handouts, nor do I resent those that are successful.

    Here we have a capitalist nation, and people are decrying workers making money & benefits & having a secure future.
    No, people are decrying paying sponges to retire at 45 with golden pensions, when the country is going broke.

    What the heck do you work for Lew?
    Why is that any of your business? See that is the problem with progressives like you, always worrying about what someone else makes instead of being concerned with doing a good job, and making the most for yourself.

    To give your boss your money, never have anything and die at a young age?
    Ridiculous! Your tripe could be found in any communist pamphlet.

    Do you bend over when the boss tells you to work for less?
    Do you when the union boss says to...I think so.

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