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    Re: Michele Bachmann announces presidential campaign

    I think Bachman would make a good president. Some say she lacks executive experence. Well that didn't stop Obama, and look what a fine job he's doing. Hey wait a minute. Maybe we need some one like Rick Perry instead.
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    Re: Michele Bachmann announces presidential campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    too bad me nor the person I was responding to is a "leftist"

    It funny when I person exposes themselves that bad and obviously LOL
    Then insert the part where you might have some real disagreement and we can debate the point.

    Putting HAHA across the page seems to amuse the Leftists for some reason. It's what gap-toothed hillbillies might do.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann announces presidential campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The ironic thing is, you guys are really ill informed and making an error that is probably really common... I could explain back and forth, all day long if you like. Show you ratios and give you examples, but I suspect it will go right over your heads because it's pretty basic concept in economics. When a company experiences a loss... or cash outflows... it doesn't mean the company is not profitable in the long term.
    The problem, as I see it, is that your knowledge may prepare you for a sterile environment but not for the messy dirty world where words mean things. If you tell me that a company is losing money and is therefore profitable I will properly label you as either a fool or a charlatan. Or both. But if you tell me that because it is losing money the stock is undervalued and I ought to look at the business fundamentals I would pay attention.

    So you have to choose. Or not.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann announces presidential campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The problem, as I see it, is that your knowledge may prepare you for a sterile environment but not for the messy dirty world where words mean things. If you tell me that a company is losing money and is therefore profitable I will properly label you as either a fool or a charlatan. Or both. But if you tell me that because it is losing money the stock is undervalued and I ought to look at the business fundamentals I would pay attention.

    So you have to choose. Or not.
    I analyzed all kinds of businesses and stocks all through grad school, which wasn't that long ago... You can analyze their business fundamentals and profitability with the financial ratios I posted earlier, and none of those ratios measure "loss." What's more important is their ability to pay their debts and obligations, and that can be done in the face of losses. Companies get sued and have massive cash outflows... they are still profitable in the long run.

    As I said before, a company experiencing a loss doesn't mean it's not profitable. A company that isn't profitable won't stay in business and will go bankrupt, and that's basically what you guys are saying... it's not profitable. I highly doubt the company is going to collapse and neither does Wall St. which is why their stocks have been trading since I last checked. They are experiencing losses, but analysts looking at their balance sheets aren't saying the companies are worthless and incapable of turning a profit...

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    Re: Michele Bachmann announces presidential campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Then insert the part where you might have some real disagreement and we can debate the point.

    Putting HAHA across the page seems to amuse the Leftists for some reason. It's what gap-toothed hillbillies might do.
    so you admit that your knee jerk reaction was wrong and inaccurate thanks.
    Thats what I though.

    Again thank you for exposing yourself.
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    Re: Michele Bachmann announces presidential campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Perhaps what you meant to say is that despite there being losses today, there are possibilities for profits in the future.

    We shouldn't need a degree in economics to understand that.
    /facepalm

    Seriously... I don't know why I should even get in this debate with you, because you don't know what you're talking about and yet you're naive enough to lecture me like I am retard.

    Honestly, Grant, their balance sheets and income statements are public information... we can just go get their income statements and see if they are showing a profit on them. Economic losses doesn't mean red ink. You know... revenue - losses = profit. If revenue is greater than the losses, then we could easily infer that they are capable of meeting their debts and not about to collapse. That article also said they are growing and selling more, therefore sales revenue accounts are increasing... not decreasing, so it's not like ONLY losses are increasing and not revenues.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann announces presidential campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It was you, in an apparent attempt to give higher status to your opinion, who introduced your education into the debate.
    You insisted that I am ignorant on the issue... I am betting I have more to prove that I am knowledgeable than you do, so all you can do is attack my education and my career.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann announces presidential campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Why are only the most shameful of Minnesota politicians involved in this one? Man...

    She thinks global warming is a hoax, wants to teach creationism in schools, supports a constitutional ban on SSM (she even goes as far as to call being gay a "sexual disorder"), and thinks we should consider going nuclear with Iran.

    She is insane to the point of delusion, and she was one of the early warning signs of the GOP going off the rails.

    Seriously, yeah, I'm a liberal, but I don't mind conservatives. Really. It's just that people like her are not "conservatives." They're insane. Real conservatives are abandoning the GOP like a sinking ship in embarrassment. People like Bachmann are the reason why.
    What is your problem? 1) Global warming is a hoax, as more genuine scientists become brave enough to express their doubt. 2) Creationism is just as likely as evolution. Things do evolve but to say that we came from ooze is insane. The one time that life was supposedly created has been debunked because it has not been re-created. ( That is the true scientific test.) 3) Until they changed the dictionary, marriage meant one man and one woman. 4) I would like to see a link proving that she wants to "GO NUCLEAR" with Iran.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann announces presidential campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by gmeyers1944 View Post
    What is your problem? 1) Global warming is a hoax, as more genuine scientists become brave enough to express their doubt. 2) Creationism is just as likely as evolution. Things do evolve but to say that we came from ooze is insane. The one time that life was supposedly created has been debunked because it has not been re-created. ( That is the true scientific test.) 3) Until they changed the dictionary, marriage meant one man and one woman. 4) I would like to see a link proving that she wants to "GO NUCLEAR" with Iran.
    If you choose to believe completely false information about science, I can't talk you out of it. All I can say is that you are factually wrong in ways that even a moderately literate 3rd grader would know. You don't understand how scientific consensus works, your "understanding" of evolution or abiogensis is so pitiful I wouldn't even know where to start to correct you, and the definition of "marriage" has changed radically at least a handful of times in the past - your notion of tradition is laughable.

    In terms of going nuke with Iran, what I actually said is that she considers it an option.
    Michele Bachmann - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And while I was browsing, I also found she considers nukes an option for pretty much anything - even a cyber attack.
    Are Nukes Needed to Deter Cyber Attacks? Bachmann Says 'Yes' - The Note

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    Re: Michele Bachmann announces presidential campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    You don't understand how scientific consensus works
    There was once a scientific consensus that the world was flat, that the sun revolved around the earth, the the Mediterranean was literally the center of Earth, that man could never fly, etc. If we have learned anything it is that science is not decided by "consensus". All scientists must be skeptics until the evidence is beyond a doubt. Such is not the case with global warming. Or cooling.

    Follow the money.

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