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    Re: Kansas City girl, 5, may face murder charges in drowning

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Okay, but how do we know how long the child cried, or if the child actually cried, or if the 5 year old stiffled the cries? We have a baby sitter who didn't hear the cries and a 5 year old who killed a toddler. Kind of hard to establish a chain of events here.
    According ot the report - the 5 year old drowned the 18 month old because he wouldn't stop crying. That's all we know - that's all I can base my opinion on.

    that might not have been what happened - but that's what's being stated at the moment.
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    Re: Kansas City girl, 5, may face murder charges in drowning

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    According ot the report - the 5 year old drowned the 18 month old because he wouldn't stop crying. That's all we know - that's all I can base my opinion on.

    that might not have been what happened - but that's what's being stated at the moment.
    Unfortunately, questioning children is hard, and the information garnered is not often accurate. "Wouldn't stop crying" when? In general? Or at the moment?
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    Re: Kansas City girl, 5, may face murder charges in drowning

    Who puts a 5 year old and an 18 month old in a bathtub with water then goes out of the bathroom?

    You have to assume one or both will drown as it is a common occurance.

    I don't think criminal charges are right in this case, I don't think she could have made the connection between what she did and death or even knew what death was.

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    Re: Kansas City girl, 5, may face murder charges in drowning

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    Who puts a 5 year old and an 18 month old in a bathtub with water then goes out of the bathroom?

    You have to assume one or both will drown as it is a common occurance.

    I don't think criminal charges are right in this case, I don't think she could have made the connection between what she did and death or even knew what death was.
    Why do you think they were being bathed?
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    Re: Kansas City girl, 5, may face murder charges in drowning

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Unfortunately, questioning children is hard, and the information garnered is not often accurate. "Wouldn't stop crying" when? In general? Or at the moment?
    *shrug* Every kid's different - one of my kids could read book ad nauseum at the age of 5, another wasn't even talking by that age.
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    Re: Kansas City girl, 5, may face murder charges in drowning

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    *shrug* Every kid's different - one of my kids could read book ad nauseum at the age of 5, another wasn't even talking by that age.
    Yeah, every kid is different, but statistically, when being interviewed about events, they are almost universally inclined to say/do whatever they think the questioner wants. It is hard to allow interview evidence from a child for this reason.
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    Re: Kansas City girl, 5, may face murder charges in drowning

    This was an accident in the end. The 5 year old may have some mental problems, but we don't charge 5 year olds with capitol offenses. The baby sitter feel asleep, it happens. Unless it was drug or alcohol related she should not be punished.

    Bad things happen to kids and good people all the time. As much as this is the "blame somebody society" sometimes **** just happens and it is no one's fault.
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    Re: Kansas City girl, 5, may face murder charges in drowning

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Why do you think they were being bathed?
    They were being bathed because they were dirty I assume, but they weren't being bathed were they?

    They were bathing themselves. You have to bath a 5 year old and even more the 18 month old. They can't do it themselves.

    Why did you ask that?

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    Re: Kansas City girl, 5, may face murder charges in drowning

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    This was an accident in the end. The 5 year old may have some mental problems, but we don't charge 5 year olds with capitol offenses. The baby sitter feel asleep, it happens. Unless it was drug or alcohol related she should not be punished.

    Bad things happen to kids and good people all the time. As much as this is the "blame somebody society" sometimes **** just happens and it is no one's fault.
    Why would she have mental problems. 5 year olds can't make the connection between their actions and consequences. If she has had no experience with death, then she would not know what it is.

    My 5 year old has had close relatives die and it was explained to him what happened. We did not tell him they went to live on a farm.

    Honesty is the best especially with little kids.

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    Re: Kansas City girl, 5, may face murder charges in drowning

    The babysitter has a duty of care to both kids, and should be the one charged, not the 5 year old.
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