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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    That appeared on the Statue of Liberty in 1912 and was written by Emma Lazarus in 1883 or so. At the time it was put on the Statue of Liberty the US population was only around 93 million. Today's population is over 300 million. IE it was said in a time when the US could use immigrants and would not be negatively affected by a mass influx of em.
    There was also the fact there was no welfare,foodstamps, section 8 housing and many other things we have today.


    And even then that quote and poem was not about illegal immigration.
    Which is why it was near Ellis Island.
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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    See. It works out well for both of us. Soon you will have all you need. I predict more states will pass similar legislation.
    Unenforceable, and unconstitutional?

    Seems like a waste of time for a state legislature to pass laws that will all be thrown out... Oh, that's right, it's the Tea Baggers, not real legislatures.

    Well, hopefully they'll all be gone by 2012, and states can get back to business.

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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Why don't they just have the illegals wear armbands and live in ghettos?
    Typically they wear bandana's and they do live in ghettos? LOL

    Just kidding, relax..


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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Unenforceable, and unconstitutional?
    Why do you think it is unenforceable?
    Why do you think it is unconstitutional?
    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Seems like a waste of time for a state legislature to pass laws that will all be thrown out...
    True. This one won't be.
    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Oh, that's right, it's the Tea Baggers, not real legislatures. Well, hopefully they'll all be gone by 2012, and states can get back to business.
    The majority of the American people? Is that to whom you refer?
    I think you will be disappointed. I won't explain why. let's just keep it a surprise for you.

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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Legal immigration into this country is a horrifically convoluted and lengthy process. For a poor, unskilled person with no family ties here it is usually impossible.
    What would we want a poor unskilled person for?
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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I need help remodeling my house. Might drive to la 7 and pick up some help.
    So, you're endorsing labor underneath the minimum wage?
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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Unenforceable, and unconstitutional?

    Seems like a waste of time for a state legislature to pass laws that will all be thrown out... Oh, that's right, it's the Tea Baggers, not real legislatures.

    Well, hopefully they'll all be gone by 2012, and states can get back to business.
    You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Why do you think it is unenforceable?
    Why do you think it is unconstitutional?

    True. This one won't be.

    The majority of the American people? Is that to whom you refer?
    I think you will be disappointed. I won't explain why. let's just keep it a surprise for you.
    Indeed, this law and others like it are likely to withstand court challenges because rather than targeting illegals, it targets US citizens or legal residents who conspire with them to violate state laws such as creating a false identity, providing false information on official documents, evading state or local taxes, making fraudulent applications for social welfare benefits, etc. The courts will find, imo, that it is very much the business of the state to punish its citizens and legal residents who conspire to violate state laws.

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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I think it's offset by the macroeconomic shift in productivity garnered by their cheap labor, but then again thats pretty hush hush, you know, admitting we get something out of their work.
    nice words, but just words. Now what part of "illegal" don't you understand?
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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Why not issue some standardized tests and export people to mexico instead?
    You don't need a test. You are free to go now.
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