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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Then the states needs to start cracking down on those who hire illegals with some prison time.


    yep, and cracking down on landlords that rent cockroach filled housing/apartments to them as well. What about doctors/hospitals?

    Shouldn't they be forced by law to report any care they may have given to an illegal, as they have to do with gunshot wounds? And if they fail to do so, give 'em prison time.
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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    If it is written similar to Arizona SB1070, I have no issue with the law. Your senerio is not realistic. At least in AZ a person would have to have broken a law first to have LE question there legal status. I have more confidence in LE than you seem to have.
    One thing for certain, we cannot continue with the status quo.
    It's kinda humorous that a person has to break the law before their status can be questioned when they are here ILLEGALLY. You just cannot effectively enforce laws which are based on the premise that nobody else can be inconvenienced when investigating the possibility that someone may be illegal. I can see it now, a couple of policemen see some suspicious activity and one says "wait, lets wait to see if he will rob the guy so we can ask him if he is illegal." I think we need to define certain activity and certain other circumstances which allow just a little broader cause for action. I don't want wholesale harrassment of citizens but law enforcement needs a little more leeway.

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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    If it is written similar to Arizona SB1070, I have no issue with the law. Your senerio is not realistic. At least in AZ a person would have to have broken a law first to have LE question there legal status. I have more confidence in LE than you seem to have.
    One thing for certain, we cannot continue with the status quo.
    When the local LE put men in prison by using wrapped up sheet rock dust as evidence, my confidence level took a big hit.
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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "the U.S. Supreme Court recently endorsed a separate Arizona law requiring employers to use E-Verify. The court also ruled that Arizona could suspend or revoke business licenses of those companies that knowingly hire illegal immigrants."

    This is the overwhelming punch that will push illegal aliens into states without the guts to deal with the issue. I am very pleased with my state and my governor.
    Good, maybe we can eventually herd them together into one state and deal with them.
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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Why don't they just have the illegals wear armbands and live in ghettos?
    Total strawman. Jews weren't in Germany illegally, and most were German citizens. Don't offend jews with these sorts of comparisons.
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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Well, since they came here to work, how about just putting them on trains and sending them to work camps.

    I'm sure the Governors of Alabama and Arizona could appoint a committee to figure out exactly how many illegal workers they need, then arrange to have the surplus workers sent to special camps with showers and stuff...
    Yeah, then "they" could hire liberal guards to be their overseers. Why don't you run that up the flagpole and see how it goes?
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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Legal immigration into this country is a horrifically convoluted and lengthy process. For a poor, unskilled person with no family ties here it is usually impossible.
    Then why don't you fix it, if you are that concerns.
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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    every state in this country needs to pass legislation like this.
    this is "game over" for the border jumping criminals.
    it is now a felony in alabama, punishable by up to 5 years in prison,
    to in anyway aid an illegal alien.

    we'll see what obama has to say on this one. another lawsuit?

    Alabama governor signs nation's toughest immigration law | Reuters
    So - I find it surprising that schools, now, don't require a copy of the birth certificate and social security card to enroll - mine does. . . as well as immunization records, etc.

    "We fear that it will, in effect, ban the student through fear and harassment," said Shay Farley, legal director of Alabama Appleseed, a nonprofit policy and legal advocacy organization.

    Farley said there is also concern about the increased financial burden on schools to collect the information.
    Since I alredy provide these things I don't see the issue in requiring others to verify this - it take a few minutes, a few copies without them even having to stand up, machines right in front of their desk - filed by a clerk - done . . .waah waah, the increased workload must be a burden.
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    Re: Alabama governor signs nations toughest immigation law

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    It's kinda humorous that a person has to break the law before their status can be questioned when they are here ILLEGALLY. You just cannot effectively enforce laws which are based on the premise that nobody else can be inconvenienced when investigating the possibility that someone may be illegal. I can see it now, a couple of policemen see some suspicious activity and one says "wait, lets wait to see if he will rob the guy so we can ask him if he is illegal." I think we need to define certain activity and certain other circumstances which allow just a little broader cause for action. I don't want wholesale harrassment of citizens but law enforcement needs a little more leeway.
    imo, that part of AZ laws was to try to mitigate protest that the law racial profiles. I agree, illegal in this country is illegal. The laws like AZ and Alabama while not perfect is a step in the right direction.
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