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Obama Team Eyes Employer Payroll Tax Break

they "contributed" the individual mandate a decade and a half ago, in an attempt to offer up a compromise to the employer mandate. you might as well argue that Democrats are hypocrites for not opposing the tariff.

and "what came out of congress isn't what obama wanted" =/= "what came out of congress reflected what republicans wanted"
 
mitt romney put out an ad today which ezra klein, wapo and newsweek columnist, founder of journolist and rachel maddow's favorite heterosexual, called "devastating"

YouTube - I'm Not a Bump in the Road

better be careful, president slasher, else you might come across as out of touch

Aren't you one of those people complaining about the dems misrepresenting Ryan's plan? This is the same thing. Obama said last month job numbers were a bump in the road. Thats true. Lots of people are still laid-off due to parts shortages from Japan.
 
how is this the same as the blatant lies that have been spread about the Ryan plan?
 
Aren't you one of those people complaining about the dems misrepresenting Ryan's plan?

no

Obama said last month job numbers were a bump in the road. Thats true.

i spose, in the sense that the rockies are a bump in the road to the coast

Job creation limps along after recession - USATODAY.com

The nation has 5% fewer jobs today — a loss of 7 million — than it did when the recession began in December 2007. That is by far the worst performance of job generation following any of the dozen recessions since the 1930s.

In the past, the economy recovered lost jobs 13 months on average after a recession. If this were a typical recovery, nearly 10 million more people would be working today than when the recession officially ended in June 2009.

barack the slasher is astonishingly outta touch

seeya at the polls, pals
 
You do realize the only real difference between the great depression and what we went through now is that we don't have a dust bowl and the FED didn't stop printing money right? Credit was allowed to flow which blunted the affects, the problem is that companies merged instead of expanding.
 
Aren't you one of those people complaining about the dems misrepresenting Ryan's plan? This is the same thing. Obama said last month job numbers were a bump in the road. Thats true. Lots of people are still laid-off due to parts shortages from Japan.

If there were as many folks counted as either working, or wanting to work, now as there was in 2007, the unemployment rate would be 11.2 % now.

Parts shortages from Japan ..... NOT !
 
Omg, a tax cut to business? Isn't that an evil GOP premise?

The Evil GoP Premise is that tax cuts actually employ Americans instead of flowing to managements or stockholders or Chinese workers or bank deposits. Notice that the OP claimed that a payroll tax cut for business would not result in increased hiring of Americans. Maybe tax cuts only work if a Republican is President.
 
I'm just wondering how they plan on blaming Bush if this doesn't work/work out.

blaming Bush is all they got, and I mean ALL they got.

remember, it took a crackerjack team of democratic strategists to ride the Bush blame train to term 1.
and as bad as Bush's #'s were, and the fact that Bush wasnt even running, they still just barely did it..
My take is the race card tipped the scales, but I digress...

This team of strategists is not likely to change course unless there is some good news to turn to. Which there isnt.

realizing blaming Bush alone 4 years later might sound desperate, they are tossing in the "we are on the right track, dont turn back now" slogan..

its grasping at straws, but as I said, its ALL they got

get into the mind of the strategists, and you realize its all smoke and mirrors, on both sides
 
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blaming Bush is all they got, and I mean ALL they got.

remember, it took a crackerjack team of democratic strategists to ride the Bush blame train to term 1.
and as bad as Bush's #'s were, and the fact that Bush wasnt even running, they still just barely did it..
My take is the race card tipped the scales, but I digress...

This team of strategists is not likely to change course unless there is some good news to turn to. Which there isnt.

realizing blaming Bush alone 4 years later might sound desperate, they are tossing in the "we are on the right track, dont turn back now" slogan..

its grasping at straws, but as I said, its ALL they got

get into the mind of the strategists, and you realize its all smoke and mirrors, on both sides

They aren't blaming Bush, no matter how much the dumb media tries to continue to say that's what Obama is doing. After the repub debate last night CNN interviewed Obama's campaign director why he continues to blame Bush when all the guy was saying was "The canidates here aren't purposing any new fixes and those fixes did nothing for 10years."
 
They aren't blaming Bush, no matter how much the dumb media tries to continue to say that's what Obama is doing. After the repub debate last night CNN interviewed Obama's campaign director why he continues to blame Bush when all the guy was saying was "The canidates here aren't purposing any new fixes and those fixes did nothing for 10years."

How successful have O'Bama's, "fixes", been?
 
they've been awesome!!!


JobLossesPercentAlignMar2011.jpg



look at how well we are doing!
 
How successful have O'Bama's, "fixes", been?

We were hemorrhaging jobs when he took the office. We aren't anymore.

CP, your graph doesn't have the great depression on it. The comparison is useless since this "recession" was caused by nearly same finical meltdown that created the great depression.
 
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not only did barack the slasher hussein promise he would cut the deficit in half in 4 years

not only did his team assure us that unemployment would peak at 8% with the passage of that obscene stimulus

in addition, joblessness today, according to the infamous romer-bernstein projection used to sell the stimulus to congress and the american people, is supposed to be about 6.5%

Romer and Bernstein on stimulus - NYTimes.com

gdp, per romer-bernstein, would today be 3.7%, based on white house promises of the beneficial consequences of that 862B boondoggle the white house let pelosi write

unfortunately, the truth is: Q1 GDP: 1.8%/CNBC

phrases the white house doesn't want to hear: "historically weak recovery"

"double dip"

don't turn on cnbc
 
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look at how well we are doing!

Corporations have done a great job of exporting jobs. Think of where we'd be if not for McDonald's, Wal-Mart, and Choice Hotels.
 
We were hemorrhaging jobs when he took the office. We aren't anymore.

CP, your graph doesn't have the great depression on it. The comparison is useless since this "recession" was caused by nearly same finical meltdown that created the great depression.

In case you haven't notice, there are 2 million more unemployed people now, than there were this time last year.
 
Corporations have done a great job of exporting jobs. Think of where we'd be if not for McDonald's, Wal-Mart, and Choice Hotels.

Think of where we would be if we had a more business friendly government.
 
We were hemorrhaging jobs when he took the office. We aren't anymore.

CP, your graph doesn't have the great depression on it. The comparison is useless since this "recession" was caused by nearly same finical meltdown that created the great depression.

really. describe this exact same financial meltdown that caused both the current recession and the Great Depression?
 
In case you haven't notice, there are 2 million more unemployed people now, than there were this time last year.

And had we let the entire system meltdown no one would have a job.

really. describe this exact same financial meltdown that caused both the current recession and the Great Depression?

Over expansion of credit that caused a finical bubble that snared everyone in it, whether they were a part of it or not because all the banks participated in it.
 
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[/b]And had we let the entire system meltdown no one would have a job.[/b]



Over expansion of credit that caused a finical bubble that snared everyone in it, whether they were a part of it or not because all the banks participated in it.

Sonce when was the stealfromus package supposed to an entire system meltdown? That was never the purpose.
 
Sonce when was the stealfromus package supposed to an entire system meltdown? That was never the purpose.

TARP + Stimulus kept credit flowing to businesses, kept people employed, and kept demand going for cetain goods (extension of unemployment benefits)
 
TARP + Stimulus kept credit flowing to businesses, kept people employed, and kept demand going for cetain goods (extension of unemployment benefits)

The stealfromus package was never intended to bailout private businesses. Nor, did it create the intended effect of jump starting the economy.

Before you defend a failed policy, you need to learn more about what it actually is.

The stealfromus package kept credit flowing? :lamo
 
The stealfromus package kept credit flowing? :lamo

TARP was designed to keep credit flowing
The stimulus was designed to help keep demand keep up by giving money to people and employ people in temporary work through "shovel ready" jobs such as fixing infrastructure while helping close state budget holes thus keeping people employed.

Without both, the economy would have completely collapsed.
 
TARP was designed to keep credit flowing
The stimulus was designed to help keep demand keep up by giving money to people and employ people in temporary work through "shovel ready" jobs such as fixing infrastructure while helping close state budget holes thus keeping people employed.

The Stealfromus package worked great. Huh? There are two million more unemployed people now, than there were when O'Bama took office. How awesome is that?

Without both, the economy would have completely collapsed.

I think we both know that that is bull****. There's no way that funding deer underpasses and trips to China to study dino doo-doo kept the economy from collapsing.
 
The Stealfromus package worked great. Huh? There are two million more unemployed people now, than there were when O'Bama took office. How awesome is that?

It stopped job loss, we are creating jobs now. You simply don't know what you are talking about.
 
It stopped job loss, we are creating jobs now. You simply don't know what you are talking about.

I'll say it again: there are two million more unemployed people now, than there was this time last year. You can't lose two million jobs and say that job loss has been stopped and you damn sure can't say that we're creating jobs.
 
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