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    Re: Obama Team Eyes Employer Payroll Tax Break

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'll say it again: there are two million more unemployed people now, than there was this time last year. You can't lose two million jobs and say that job loss has been stopped and you damn sure can't say that we're creating jobs.
    What about hemorrhaging jobs to actually creating jobs do you not understand?

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-beats-job-cr/
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    Re: Obama Team Eyes Employer Payroll Tax Break

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    What about hemorrhaging jobs to actually creating jobs do you not understand?
    What about, there are two million more unemployed people now than there was last year don't you understand? Two million lost jobs in 12 months sounds like a hemorrage, to me.

    What about, the government can't create jobs, don't you understand?

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    Re: Obama Team Eyes Employer Payroll Tax Break

    You need to better sources. Did you notice that the unemployment rate went [b]up]/b] recently? Have you noticed that the unemployment rate has done nothing but go up, since the Democrats and O'Bama got elected?

    Doesn't Austan Goolsbee a member of O'bama's cabinet? Whatelse is he going to say? oh, wait, Goolsbee resigned last week, didn't he? Gee, I wonder why.
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    Re: Obama Team Eyes Employer Payroll Tax Break

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Think of where we would be if we had a more business friendly government.
    Or more employee-friendly businesses.
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    Re: Obama Team Eyes Employer Payroll Tax Break

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Or more employee-friendly businesses.
    Another one claiming that private businesses are at fault for unemployment. This is got the be the absolute worst talking point the Libbos have come up with, ever.

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    Re: Obama Team Eyes Employer Payroll Tax Break

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst
    This is got the be the absolute worst talking point the Libbos have come up with, ever.
    oh, I dunno, I think the latest round of "it's not our fault because government really can't effect the economy" rates up there.

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    Re: Obama Team Eyes Employer Payroll Tax Break

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    oh, I dunno, I think the latest round of "it's not our fault because government really can't effect the economy" rates up there.
    Runnin' neck-n-neck, for sure.

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    Re: Obama Team Eyes Employer Payroll Tax Break

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    What about hemorrhaging jobs to actually creating jobs do you not understand?

    In February 2009, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported that 141.7 million people were employed. By the end of May 2011 – the last month for which data are available – that number had fallen to 139.8 million, a difference of 1.9 million..

    This does not mean that the economy is not creating jobs, but rather that it is not creating jobs fast enough to keep up with a combination of layoffs and people entering the job market for the first time.

    In a Washington Post op-ed, former White House chief economist Larry Summers noted that the percentage of the population that has a job has not improved, even though the economy is technically in recovery.

    “From the first quarter of 2006 to the first quarter of 2011, the U.S. economy’s growth rate averaged less than 1 percent a year,” Summers wrote. “The fraction of the population working remains almost exactly at its recession trough, and recent reports suggest that growth is slowing.”

    The fraction of the population with a job has in fact fallen in the 28 months since Congress passed the stimulus – down from 60.3 percent in February 2009 to 58.4 percent in May 2011....

    As both Summers and the BLS data make clear, the economy is not creating new jobs fast enough to make up for layoffs and new graduates, calling into question Obama’s oft-repeated claim that the economy is recovering and creating jobs.

    In fact, by citing figures from the first quarter of 2006, Summers is understating the economy’s poor performance. According to BLS data, the number of people with jobs peaked at 146.6 million in November 2007, meaning that over the entire recession – which officially began in December 2007 – the number of people employed has fallen by 6.8 million.



    :shakes fist: darn that partisan bureau of labor statistics!

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    Re: Obama Team Eyes Employer Payroll Tax Break

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Runnin' neck-n-neck, for sure.
    I asked Boo if that meant that the different systems of governance between North and South Korea were thus not responsible for the differences in their economies, and the man honestly tried to argue that they weren't....

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