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    Re: Republican mainstream flirts with brief default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    And that is?
    I said so above. Post 45 I think.

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    Re: Republican mainstream flirts with brief default

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Pretty much libs show they are literally 4th grade debaters. That's a good way to put it. "Well, rest assured, if a republican was president you'd be fine with the national debt."

    I have issues with that statement and they are as follows:

    1. A republican isn't president, so who the **** cares?
    2. I would definitely care about the debt, it's just that we're finally not facing 1. the worst terrorist attack on our nation or 2. the worst natural disaster our nation has ever faced....that would drive up debt. We are in a lull, a time where we can actually recover if we behave financially.
    3. How the hell do you know how I would think of a president was in power?

    Why don't you actually give real responses to questions instead of the usual grade school "Well, you guys did it too!" response. That ensures you keep the debate down at your level on not on an actual adult level and ensures no answers come from your mouth as you constantly move the goalposts so people who debate you find themselves defending your false baseless accusations and not addressing the issue at hand.
    Are you a majority of republcans? Or did you read it as saying dontworrybehappy wouldn't care?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republican mainstream flirts with brief default

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, I really don't think it does.



    In a large situation I would likely have to do both. Been there and did that.




    Who decides able? I know my family members quite well. I have a brother who sponges. I have a grandmother who needs care. Both are a problem, but I would still choose helping both over invading my neighbor, no matter how much he was a problem in his own home.





    Well, it isn't what I said, but I sure as hell when do it when I couldn't afford it. Seems to me you're trying to skip the point.
    But you are perfectly happy to have the govenment invade your neighbors and confiscate from them to give to your brother and grandmother so you don't have to provide for them.

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    Re: Republican mainstream flirts with brief default

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Are you a majority of republcans? Or did you read it as saying dontworrybehappy wouldn't care?
    Are YOU the majority of anybody? You love to generalize and then bitch at people for generalizing.

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    Re: Republican mainstream flirts with brief default

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I said so above. Post 45 I think.
    You mean this?

    I think the health care problem has to be fixed, in a way that reduces cost. I think a universal payer system would help do that. I think we have to address The big three, moving medicare and medicaid to a Universal payer system would help. I don't oppose means testing to help lower costs.
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    Re: Republican mainstream flirts with brief default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    You mean this?
    Yep. And your objection is?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republican mainstream flirts with brief default

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think the health care problem has to be fixed, in a way that reduces cost.
    Would that include rationing? In the Robert Reich method of such?

    I think a universal payer system would help do that.
    There isn't a Universal system out there right now that isn't bankrupting the countries using them, so how would ours turn out any differently?

    I don't oppose means testing to help lower costs.
    Nor do I

    The military must also face cuts, and we don't need to be invading countries and nation building, period.
    I am not a fan of nation building either. But in our case now we have a sticky situation as far as just leaving where we are at. So how do you propose achieving this when Obama can't get it done either?

    No, just a wish. Some consistency would be nice. I would bet republicans would give nothing more than lip serice to the debt if they were in power. History shows this to be so.
    Well, I would argue that this time it is far different than any other in history. So, with the anger of the people to take into account I wouldn't bet on that opinion.

    Not really. It is larger and with different responsibilities that effect many more people. It is in fact very different.
    Math, is math...decimal placement has little to do with the equation.

    Glad you agree.
    Well, substance would be better.

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    Re: Republican mainstream flirts with brief default

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yep. And your objection is?
    I've got no objection Boo ... the comedy you provide is never ending. Keep it up dude! You've got my 100% support.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Republican mainstream flirts with brief default

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    Would that include rationing? In the Robert Reich method of such?
    It is so stupid that people try to force feed that word. Does your insurance company ration? Does your wallet ration? Setting forth policy, like elective procedures won't be covered, or that ineffective and untested procedures won't be covered is not rationing. It is a lie to call it such.

    There isn't a Universal system out there right now that isn't bankrupting the countries using them, so how would ours turn out any differently?
    None of them are. The problems with financing are not the product of the health care system. other problems, like here, effect how much the government can pay. But as those systems pay less than we do, they are not the larger problems.


    Nor do I
    See an area of agreement.

    I am not a fan of nation building either. But in our case now we have a sticky situation as far as just leaving where we are at. So how do you propose achieving this when Obama can't get it done either?
    You know my thoughs. Once we made the mistake, there is no easy answer. But, it is a reminder of why these things should be reserved for only when there is no other option. And let's not forget I have criticsed Obama on this front. The Afghan surge for example was a mistake, and wrong. We should only be concerned with our safety. Iraq and Afghanistan belong to the Iraqi and Afghan people. But, the military has to also face cuts.


    Well, I would argue that this time it is far different than any other in history. So, with the anger of the people to take into account I wouldn't bet on that opinion.
    I don't think so. And the anger is largely incoherent.




    Math, is math...decimal placement has little to do with the equation.
    No, but the size and scope of the operation does.


    Well, substance would be better.

    j-mac
    I'm all for substance.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republican mainstream flirts with brief default

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yep. And your objection is?
    Well let's start with this; the assertions of the single payer camp are matters of great dispute. I would much rather balance the budget with measures I know will work, rather than experiment with single payer healthcare using data which in no way accounts for a world where the US ceases to intellectually subsidize the other global exemplars of socialized medicine.
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