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    Re: Connecticut to Pass Paid Sick Leave Law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I posted my position, it's dripping with common sense. It's your turn to prove that I'm wrong.

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    Re: Connecticut to Pass Paid Sick Leave Law

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Assumption based on ignorance of the structure of the law and common sense are not interchangable.
    So, you're saying that it's a good idea to further invade a small businesses already shrinking bottom line, in the middle of a depression?

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    Re: Connecticut to Pass Paid Sick Leave Law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you're saying that it's a good idea to further invade a small businesses already shrinking bottom line, in the middle of a depression?
    I'm saying I don't know enough about this law to make a decision about it's benefit.
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    Re: Connecticut to Pass Paid Sick Leave Law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm saying it's not a good thing to make a small business pay out money, with no return.
    You do get a return from it though. You're less likely to have a sick person coming in and getting a bunch of other employees sick, which may cause a much larger problem for you a few days down the line. It would also mean you'll have happier and healthier employees, who will be more productive as a result.

    While I don't necessarily agree with a law mandating it, I think any business that doesn't offer paid sick time is somewhat shortsighted.
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    Re: Connecticut to Pass Paid Sick Leave Law

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Are you completely ignoring the article? The article states that cities have done this. Now one singular state has done it. Perhaps you should do some research before you start panicking over a law that doesn't even affect you.
    Eventually all these laws effect everyone by encouraging businesses to go elsewhere. We can't really complain when businesses are moving overseas or to another area if we arbitrarily add expenses to their cost of doing business. Eventually, and especially so for the smaller businesses rather than the larger corporations who just pass this added expense on to consumers, it just stops being worthwhile to hire. Of course the costs of government employees is just passed on to the taxpayer.

    Business owners have none of these benefits.

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    Re: Connecticut to Pass Paid Sick Leave Law

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'm saying I don't know enough about this law to make a decision about it's benefit.
    Ok, I see that angle.

    Now, for my angle: I think that this law will invade an already shrinking bottom line, that most small businesses can't afford in the current depression.

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    Re: Connecticut to Pass Paid Sick Leave Law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok, I see that angle.

    Now, for my angle: I think that this law will invade an already shrinking bottom line, that most small businesses can't afford in the current depression.
    So you're the one who needs to provide proof.
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    Re: Connecticut to Pass Paid Sick Leave Law

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    You do get a return from it though. [b]You're less likely to have a sick person coming in and getting a bunch of other employees sick, which may cause a much larger problem for you a few days down the line.[/'b] It would also mean you'll have happier and healthier employees, who will be more productive as a result.

    While I don't necessarily agree with a law mandating it, I think any business that doesn't offer paid sick time is somewhat shortsighted.
    If he can come to work sick, then the rest of them can come to work sick.

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    Re: Connecticut to Pass Paid Sick Leave Law

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    So you're the one who needs to provide proof.
    You mean, I have to actually provide proof that cutting into a small businesses profits, in the current economy is a bad thing? Really?

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    Re: Connecticut to Pass Paid Sick Leave Law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok, I see that angle.

    Now, for my angle: I think that this law will invade an already shrinking bottom line, that most small businesses can't afford in the current depression.
    I can see this on both sides. I think it's been posted that similar laws have been tried without negative repercussion; and under most normal circumstances I can see that being the case. However, it is also true that we are in middle of a long going recession, with high unemployment, and these harsh times will particularly hurt the smaller businesses who aren't as insulated as corporations. Though I think (IIRC) it was something like 1/2 a day/month; which means 6 days of paid sick leave a year; and that doesn't seem terribly large. There are other concerns as well, such as allowing the paid sick days would encourage workers who are sick to stay at home; thus not spreading their cold to the rest of the workers and possibly affecting the productivity of many more.

    It's a fairly entangled state, and it's hard to say how it will come out in the wash. Still, it's been made law? If so, we'll soon have data on it.
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