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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    5???? get real. more like 2 or 3
    ya'll must have shipped out unprepared - at month two you're still swapping porn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Kal, come on. If I was in a foxhole with a female, ugly or not, there is a limit on just how long it will take for me to probe the chances of getting some head.. Don't see why it would be different with a gay dude and a straight guy?

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    And if told no what would you do? Back off right? The difference between you and a female vs that of a gay guy trying to get some from a straight guy is that the gay guy will already know that the answer from the straight guy is no.

    If you knew that the woman would say no right from the start, before you even tried, would you still try to get some from her?
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no. in a bed you don't usually have full-body contact.
    Depends on how you and your other half sleep.

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    so you are in favor of forcing young female members of the military to strip down and cuddle up with the males?
    Forcing? Only if life depended on it. Are you saying that they do that in the military? Force males to strip and cuddle? Somehow I doubt that. But irregardless if it happens then a heterosexual male would still feel a gross factor irregardless of it being a gay guy or a straight guy. Yet you seem to have gotten use to it through training right? Is it not possible to get use to "cuddleing" with a gay guy when you know that life may depend on it? Let's put it this way. If your life depended on cuddleing with a gay guy would you do it?
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no, i'm not. I don't doubt you will get instances of that occuring, and I don't doubt that you will get instances of that being suspected (Cpl Jones always picks me to check for ticks.... why? etc.) which will create it's own problems - but my argument here assumes nothing more than the fact that they will be homosexual males, that homosexual males are attracted to other males, and that other males are aware of this. that is all that is necessary to start throwing up boundaries and barriers to personal interaction where none existed previously. we can all teabag each other throughout the field ex's because it's funny.... but no one is going to rub their penis in the gay guys' face or really find it particularly hilarious when he does it to them - he's different because of his sexuality, he can't be fully part of the joke part of the group, part of the intimacy that occurs in male-bonding. and because sexuality is generally unchanging, that is always going to be there. we won't see a shift as we did with racial tension because whlie attitudes towards racial differences (and agreed, towards sexual differences) are subject to change, basic sexual drive is not. he's not going to cease being gay anymore than you are going to cease being a woman - and because of that the nature and level of interaction between him and others will always have barriers and limitations that currently do not exist. because he will not cease being gay any more than I will cease being straight or you will cease being a woman that tension will always be there, seperating members of the unit from one another and hurting that cohesion and unity that is so vital.



    to me it's about not making it harder for the guys on the pointy end to do their job and make it back home in one piece. i couldn't give a **** less if people are offended or have their feelings hurt, or suffer loss of self-worth, or not, so long as that end is achieved.
    Just wanted to comment on the bold part.

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    so you are in favor of forcing young female members of the military to strip down and cuddle up with the males?
    Again, since it does not seem to be sinking in: gay men are not women, gay women are not men. Treating two differing situations as the same is foolish.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    So what does it make them? It sure doesn't show that they are enlightened.
    It makes them have a different opinion on the issue...That is all......
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    The problem is gay men living together is the same as men and women living together because gay men are sexually attracted to one another as the norm men and women being attracted to each other............
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The problem is gay men living together is the same as men and women living together because gay men are sexually attracted to one another as the norm men and women being attracted to each other............
    Navy...strait couples can live together, so why can't gay couples?
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The problem is gay men living together is the same as men and women living together because gay men are sexually attracted to one another as the norm men and women being attracted to each other............
    And the repeal of DADT has nothing to do with this. Gay men were living together prior.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The problem is gay men living together is the same as men and women living together because gay men are sexually attracted to one another as the norm men and women being attracted to each other............
    Oh yeah buddy! Gay men find Every Single Straight Man on the planet irresistible!

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