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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We cannot discuss the IDF (or its record of discipline or cohesion) outside of ME and under ML. Just delete the post so you don't cause a response.



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    Why should I delete it? The IDF lets gays serve openly since like 1980 or something like that.

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

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    When people are willing to fly planes into buildings killing thousands of innocent people there is a need for decisive brutal violent action.
    Would it not perhaps be a good idea to find out why they want to do that? Maybe if there was more talk and less rattling of sabers that would not happen. It could be that the amount of interference in the business of other nations has caused a bit of animosity which has pissed people off to the point where they do want to fly planes into buildings.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    mis type.



    not here. and not internationally, either. the British Royal Navy ended much of the African slave trade, and they did it by hunting down and killing slavers.


    so my question stands. if you are against all military action irrespective - does this mean that you would have been willing to leave blacks in slavery, the Chinese being exterminated, jews in concentration camps.... all because you would have considered those to be superior alternatives to military action?
    It does not require the use of force to solve all problems. If you examine the causes of the tragedy's you mention there may well have been other solutions. But because you are unable to defend your position on bigotry you are now focusing on another issue totally unrelated to the topic at hand.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I would put it about on par with those accusing others of bigotry.
    You don't like being called a bigot. Maybe that would not happen if you didn't support bigoted positions. There would be no confusion that way.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Do you think that change relates to their viewpoint on gays? Or are we just going off topic now?
    Allowing gays to serve openly may have had a negative impact on their combat readiness.

    We hear about how about allowing gays to serve openly has been tried and it suceeded, but in reality those armies that have open gay policies have yet to be tested in combat. One that has been tested--The Dutch--failed miserably and 20,000 people died, because of that failure.

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no. but the intimacy with which I can interact with them is decreased by the presence of sexual tension. A barrier has been thrown up where previously there was none.
    Why would there be a sexual tension? I can't even imagine that someone would even consider that. Why? Gays are not out to get in bed with straight people. I would have no interest at all in bedding some straight women. I would say that most gays feel the same. So what are these straight people afraid of?
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

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    Nobody asked. But the bulk of us are grateful.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Allowing gays to serve openly may have had a negative impact on their combat readiness.

    We hear about how about allowing gays to serve openly has been tried and it suceeded, but in reality those armies that have open gay policies have yet to be tested in combat. One that has been tested--The Dutch--failed miserably and 20,000 people died, because of that failure.
    Links to that information you shared that tells us that the problem is absolutely do to the gays. Thanks.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We cannot discuss the IDF (or its record of discipline or cohesion) outside of ME and under ML. Just delete the post so you don't cause a response.



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    This is false. The IDF can be discussed here as it pertains to the topic. Not a good idea to tell other posters what to do.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    You don't like being called a bigot. Maybe that would not happen if you didn't support bigoted positions. There would be no confusion that way.
    Maybe you wouldn't feel compelled to call people--who don't think exactly like you--bigots, if it weren't for your own bigotted mindset.

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