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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If gays can't enlist and keep their private life to themselves, then they have no business serving.
    Except the same standard is not applied to straight enlistees, and for a reason. Because it is unreasonable for us to prevent our soldiers from having a personal life.

    A soldier's personal life should not interfere with the performance of their duties, but this does not mean that they can't have a personal life nor that they should have to keep that life a "secret" to appease the feelings of others.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who says? The Dutch Army? The Dutch government?
    Yes, both. In fact, the only one who said the gays had anything to so with it was one US general, who claimed he had been told by one, unnamed Dutch officer. And you know this because we discussed all this when the controversy was going on after the general made an ass of himself.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I would much rather have a professional homosexual defending this country than someone who is willing to discriminate against others just so he can feel slightly more comfortable.


    that isn't what we are arguing. given that we have explained it several times at length i find it difficult to imagine that you could possibly be unaware of what we are actually arguing.

    you're a pretty good poster. but the intellectual dishonesty you seem to be demonstrating in this thread has been beneath you.

    I expect the same standards of everyone. Do your job and don't let your personal life interfere with doing that job.
    in the grunts there IS no "personal life".

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why is this gay only? Straits are not expected to keep their private life to themselves.
    That's why the ban on gays should have been lifted, DADT left in placed and modified to apply to everyone.

    But, of course we can't have that, because the gays soldiers have to be able to express their gay pride. Right?

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's why the ban on gays should have been lifted, DADT left in placed and modified to apply to everyone.

    But, of course we can't have that, because the gays soldiers have to be able to express their gay pride. Right?
    No, can't have that because it is stupid.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, both. In fact, the only one who said the gays had anything to so with it was one US general, who claimed he had been told by one, unnamed Dutch officer. And you know this because we discussed all this when the controversy was going on after the general made an ass of himself.
    Gee! The Dutch government? Whatelse are they going to say??

    Two facts are certain; 1) That unit fell apart in the face of the enemy and 2) The Dutch Army allows gays to serve openly.

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, can't have that because it is stupid.
    So, instead, we have to have the, "I'm gay and proud", regulation put into place?

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    If the "minor problems" already exist, then why are we arguing about this? And exactly what are those "minor problems"? I am looking for problems due just to homosexuals, not to mixed gender groups. Also, if we know there are problems, then we should be addressing exactly why those things are happening and look to minimize them. My guess is that you are talking about some discrimination against homosexuals or possibly some harassment.
    Rogue...let me point out a glaring fact...I am a realist. I grew up in a Navy environment, spent 20 years AD, and still work with the Dept of the Army. I have CONSISTENTLY stated that this was GOING to happen, that there would be some problems, and eventually the force would adapt. Always has...always will. In every thread people lose their ****ing MINDS when you actually present an argument that there will be some problems with the repeal of DADT...primarily because they are so desperate to see their pet cause be made mandate that they deny any potential possible problem. If you dare to be honest, realistic, and suggest otherwise they do their normal shrill "OMG YOU ARE A HOMOPHOBE!!!" routine. Its pathetic.

    And seriously...did you really just say "problems due just to homosexuals, not to mixed gender groups"? What environment do you anticipate there NOT being mixed groups???
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    it is indeed.

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

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    You will of course be joinging and putting your life on the line...right?
    Why would I do that? I never asked anyone to do that for me. How many times do i need to repeat that I do not support any military action anywhere for any reason.
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