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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    If said straight people are so worried they have mental problems and should not be in the military anyway. You though no matter how you put in or want to sugar coat it are supporting a bigoted policy as is the military. If they can't deal with gays serving openly cut them loose.
    you know what - I go to a great length, and go into deep, personal history to explain to you why we approach this topic the way we do..... and this is how you respond.


    you know what? **** it. you are just as big a bigot as anything you are accusing anyone else of. I'm done feeding the troll.

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    The military is an organization. Have I said one word against the individuals. No I have not.p
    sure you have. you have accused us of hatred and bigotry.

    I do not subscribe to the ideals of the military industrial complex that is the world. I can certainly find the idea of military repugnant
    do you think of the police the same way?

    I suggest you go live for a while in Saudi Arabia. You'll have a great time as a woman there. Perhaps you will come back with a brand new appreciation for those who sign up to defend your freedoms.

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I just find it somehow oddly amusing that it is now more acceptable in the military to suck a dick than it is to smoke a cigarette.
    small wonder: you get paid for doing one, you have to pay to do the other.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I just find it somehow oddly amusing that it is now more acceptable in the military to suck a dick than it is to smoke a cigarette.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    sure you have. you have accused us of hatred and bigotry.



    do you think of the police the same way?

    I suggest you go live for a while in Saudi Arabia. You'll have a great time as a woman there. Perhaps you will come back with a brand new appreciation for those who sign up to defend your freedoms.
    Part of that signing up is the ability to follow orders and maintain discipline. If a particular person is so terrified of homosexuals that they are unable to do this, then they shouldn't be serving.

    We aren't Saudi Arabia. We're America. As an American I expect better of our police and military personnel. And of my fellow Americans. Saudia Arabia is not the measuring stick we should be using. America should be the measuring stick that all other nations use.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Anyone that answered ANY questions about the repeal of DADT beyond, "we dont know, this is what the current guidance is, more to follow" was talking out of their ass (usually where these kind of things start to lead to trouble). The current 'training' that is being trumpeted as a 'success' is nothing more than a power point presentation. All it states is that people will not be punished for being openly homosexual and people cant opt out because of the change in policy. Marriage laws remain the same. Civilian employee rules remain the same. That is all.

    When it is implemented there WILL be problems. It will take a while to work itself out. Eventually there will be a level of peaceful detente and I doubt the mission will be too badly impacted.
    Actually, no, because the questions didn't all ask about what would happen assuming DADT was repealed. In fact, some of the questions asked about whether a person served with anyone they knew was gay and how it affected the work environment.

    I know personally of about 800 personnel who could honestly answer that question at the very least, "there was no significant affect". My department had at least a dozen openly gay personnel, men and women, during the 4 1/2 years aboard the ship. Everyone knew they were gay, no one cared. There were none of the problems that everyone is afraid of, like people getting beat up for being gay or a lot of same sex sexual harassment claims (although my berthing did get accused of being gay because the berthing under us felt "harassed" by us treating the other girls in our berthing like sisters instead of like backstabbing witches) or even issue of discrimination due to sexuality. Everyone in my department accepted that we needed everyone to stand watch and being stupid about someone being gay made a person look like a toad.

    There probably will be some minor problems and it is even possible that there could be a very few major incidents, but they should not be significant and they will be caused by someone not following rules already in place, not from someone just being homosexual. The best way to minimize these and ensure the repeal goes on with as few issues as possible is to ensure the chain of command stresses to their men and women that harassment of any kind, no matter someone's sexuality is not acceptable. Everyone in the military is there to do their job and everyone should be treated fairly (in regards to policy) and with respect.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    except for the guys at the pointy end.
    They are entirely unharmed.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What's been refuted? It hasn't been refuted that those Dutch troops deserted their posts, getting Dutch soldiers killed and allowing Serb troops to slaughter 20,000 Bosnia Muslims. That's not in dispute at all.
    That gays had anything to do with it.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I just find it somehow oddly amusing that it is now more acceptable in the military to suck a dick than it is to smoke a cigarette.
    That has been the case for a very long time.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Part of that signing up is the ability to follow orders and maintain discipline. If a particular person is so terrified of homosexuals that they are unable to do this, then they shouldn't be serving.
    so no. ya'll aren't actually reading what we are writing. and the fact that roguenuke and kal'stang "like" this indicates that they aren't either.

    ya'll aren't interested in discussing this topic at all it seems; only in smearing any who disagree with you.

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