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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    No they are not. Thinking that gays would hurt the military just by them being known is bigoted. That is a child's mentality.
    Child's mentality, eh? Is your opinion based on evidence or just emotion?

    Why gays should not serve in the military
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its pbvious by your comment that you have never seerved in the military or you would know about troops morale ans command readiness.........Happy troops aew much betteer in combat........They don't need the gay thing disturbing them.......
    Funny...though....Navy.....but most of the Military are not the bigots that you think that they are. Most are fine with gay people serving....they aren't disturbed by it at all.

    Its a new world Navy.....and your anti-gay bigotry isn't welcome many places anymore.....including the military.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Funny...though....Navy.....but most of the Military are not the bigots that you think that they are. Most are fine with gay people serving....they aren't disturbed by it at all.

    Its a new world Navy.....and your anti-gay bigotry isn't welcome many places anymore.....including the military.
    Until, there are some reports of actions gainst gay soldiers, then they'll be bigoted homophobes, in addition to brainwashed murderers.

    Wait until a republican is elected in '12 and something bad happens to a gay soldier. Then, we'll be hearing all the usual hatin' on the military, like when Bush was in office.

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

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    Will, it appears your cheese done slid clear off your cracker. You really think a military shower is comparable to posting one's .... seriously, I can't even dignify that thought with a re-type.
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    as soon as you begin advocating forcing female servicemembers to strip down in front of the males, let me know.
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    ............. Will. You're against gays serving openly in the military?
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    not that it matters any more - the decision has been made and we follow orders

    but generally, yes - at least and especially in the combat arms. I thought that for such units, DADT was an excellent compromise which allowed those who wanted to serve to do so, while protecting the units from the added stress that the introduction of sexual tension would bring.
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    Why, indeed.
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    why betty? why wouldn't you expose yourself in front of a mixed audience? would it be better if that audience instead was generally made up solely of 18-22 year old males?
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    Well, since you edited out my quote, I don't feel the need to answer you.
    BD: this, as near as I can tell, is our correspondence on this thread. if you can tell me where I failed to address something you raised, do so and I will do my best to answer you. But the long quote you cited above was my response to redress.

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He does have a point here.
    Finding the military repugnant is far different than finding particular people a problem. The military is an organization. He does not have a point.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who do you think makes up the military? Most of the men and women in out military believe in what they are doing and believe that a strong military is a necessity. If you find the military repugnant, you must also believe that anyone who serves in the military is repugnant.
    That is fine they believe in what they are doing. That is up to them and I don't have a problem with them. It is the entire nature of the military as a whole. It has nothing to do with it's members. Why would I have to be believe that the people that do as they are told by the the organization are repugnant. That is an extrapolation that does not fit. Sorry try again.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How long before you et. al. understand that it has nothing to do with all that and that these talking points are just the typical Libbos insults towards people who don't agree with them?

    I should have known it would be impossible to have a rational discussion with a Liberal on this subject.
    no. just ones who insist that disagreement with them must be bigotry.

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    There is a potential argument that claiming a group of people are not fit to serve and will disrupt military readiness, especially when this argument flies in the face of all research on the topic, is in fact bigoted. It is certainly stupid.
    there is a big difference between "will reduce good order, discipline, and unit cohesion" and "not fit to serve" given that I support DADT, i obviously already think they are fit to serve, and merely wish to find a way for them to do so that doesn't involve anyone else suffering.

    frankly i find the need to reach for the "bigot" card to be indicative of someone's intelligence. If that is truly the best one can come up with, then they are no better than the "Tea Party Just Opposes Obama Because He's Black" types. It seeks to make an ad hominem smear against one's opponents rather than actually meet or negate their arguments.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Child's mentality, eh? Is your opinion based on evidence or just emotion?

    Why gays should not serve in the military
    Yes a child's mentality. Gays have served in military for ages and only the homophobic would have a problem.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no. just ones who insist that disagreement with them must be bigotry.



    there is a big difference between "will reduce good order, discipline, and unit cohesion" and "not fit to serve" given that I support DADT, i obviously already think they are fit to serve, and merely wish to find a way for them to do so that doesn't involve anyone else suffering.

    frankly i find the need to reach for the "bigot" card to be indicative of someone's intelligence. If that is truly the best one can come up with, then they are no better than the "Tea Party Just Opposes Obama Because He's Black" types.
    To pick on one select group within the military because of sexual orientation is bigotry. How blind are you. I am not calling you a bigot because you disagree with me. I am calling you one because of what you are defending. So you might want to try reading what your type if you don't want to be seen as having a bigots viewpoint.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Finding the military repugnant is far different than finding particular people a problem. The military is an organization. He does not have a point.
    The military is the people in the military. I cannot speak for other countries militaries, but the US military is made up of some of the absolute best people you could ever hope to meet.
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