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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Because a person is anti gays serving openly does not make them homophobic...That is bul**** put out by left wingers....
    So what does it make them? It sure doesn't show that they are enlightened.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    considering the vanishing rareness of such cases, i sincerely doubt it.
    Why? How many homosexuals do you think are in the military? How many cases of sexual harassment by homosexuals alone do you think there will be? Actual estimate of numbers would be preferred, since that would help to figure out about how many more cases we might have to deal with and whether it would be a significant amount compared with having to investigate cases of homosexuality and having to investigate cases of sexual discrimination and/or sexuality discrimination anyway, since those were both rules before the repeal.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    ............. Will. You're against gays serving openly in the military?
    not that it matters any more - the decision has been made and we follow orders

    but generally, yes - at least and especially in the combat arms. I thought that for such units, DADT was an excellent compromise which allowed those who wanted to serve to do so, while protecting the units from the added stress that the introduction of sexual tension would bring.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Why? How many homosexuals do you think are in the military?
    many, many, many, many more than are ever prosecuted for it.

    the claim that repealing DADT will reduce administrative backlogs strikes me as..... well, frankly, ridiculous.

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I'm unaware of anyone making the argument that they do or should. My little sister is a lesbian - came out to me first so I could help her with the folks because she knew she would get love and support.

    but that doesn't alter the fact that repealing DADT will put increased stress on the units least capable of handling it, and on the units where added stress is paid for in the currency of blood.
    If it adds stress than the mindless idiots that are stressed certainly do not belong in the military. Those that believe that it will add stress and want to support that fact and would defend bigots that are stressed by gays make the same statement about themselves. I don't get stressed by straight people. Why would a straight person that isn't a bigot get stressed by gays?
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    Didn't see this posted anywhere. Seems things are going as expected regarding the new policy. I think most of us knew our military wouldn't fall apart over this.


    WASHINGTON More than a million U.S. troops roughly half the armed forces have been trained on the new law allowing gays to serve openly in the military, and so far there has been none of the turmoil or dire consequences predicted by opponents of what had been expected to be a wrenching change in military culture.

    There's been no widespread resistance, no mad rush for the door by enlisted members opposed to the policy and no drop in recruiting.

    "So far this seems to be a non-event," Gen. Peter Chiarelli, vice chief of staff for the Army, told reporters recently.



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    I'm pretty sure conservatives like myself have been telling you all along that this was not going to be a big deal.

    There was a long, deep history of conflict between races, so that was a big deal. We came from a history of Victorian gender rolls, so going co-ed was a big deal.

    Gays, on the other hand, were never really a source of conflict. Additionally, there being so few gays, and the fact that heteros undermine unit cohesion far more so than gays, means this will only be a cause for concern among tight fire teams; who can get a waiver and reject gays anyway.

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Why would a straight person that isn't a bigot get stressed by gays?
    Why, indeed.

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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    i couldn't care less if you think it's an excuse or not. our combat arms guys are already stressed enough, and the units are already facing plenty of problems. Suicide is on the rise again, PTSD continues to plague, and now they want to dump the problems of dealing with this on our laps as though nothing was more important to an organization where stress costs lives than pleasing left-wing pressure groups.

    there is a good reason that the units and branches most effected by the wars are the ones that poll most heavily against this.
    The military is always stressed. Always. This will have basically zero impact however on those manifestations of stress you list. The idea that 1 in 20 soldiers around them might be gay is not going to cause PTSD, nor suicides. Realistically, this is a fairly minor change. And as with every change in the military, those serving are going to blow it all out of proportion, right up until it has happened, then they will find it's not a big deal and they have bigger things to worry about.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    not that it matters any more - the decision has been made and we follow orders

    but generally, yes - at least and especially in the combat arms. I thought that for such units, DADT was an excellent compromise which allowed those who wanted to serve to do so, while protecting the units from the added stress that the introduction of sexual tension would bring.
    The bold would seem to say that you support bigoted behavior and you would rather defend bigots right to stay in the military than gays. You really need to decide what side of the fence you stand on.
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    Re: Officials: Half of force trained on gay ban repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    People who disapprove of homosexuality are like those lame kids bookstories Goosebumps that they use to give in Jr High. They always try to creep you out by saying "You never know!" at the end of the conversation.
    I 'disprove' of homosexuality yet strongly support gays serving openly in the military.

    One does not have to do with the other.

    Gays in the military is not a social issue like same-sex marriage.

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