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    NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    The non-War has moved ahead as Obama is lies about our mission.

    Is it remotely possible that Obama has been less than forthright in the degree of our involvement in the Libyan theater. Say it's not so.

    URL="http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/06/04/nato-uses-attack-helicopters-for-first-time-in-libya/"]http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/06/04/nato-uses-attack-helicopters-for-first-time-in-libya/[/URL]

    NATO announced Saturday it had for the first time used attack helicopters in Libya, striking military vehicles, military equipment and forces backing embattled leader Colonel Muammar al-Qaddafi.

    "Attack helicopters under NATO command were used for the first time on 4 June, 2011 in military operations over Libya as part of Operation Unified Protector," the Atlantic Alliance said in a statement.
    "The targets struck included military vehicles, military equipment and fielded forces" of the Qaddafi regime, said the statement, without detailing exactly where the strikes had taken place.
    Looks like a war to me.
    I wnever want to see these monster pointed at me.

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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    I'm confused... Wasn't Obama highly critical of Bush invading Iraq? But now isn't Obama part of a coalition invading Lybia? Is this hope and change we can depend on?

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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    I'm confused... Wasn't Obama highly critical of Bush invading Iraq? But now isn't Obama part of a coalition invading Lybia? Is this hope and change we can depend on?

    I guess this message turned out to be true after all.

    No. Don't you see that if you understand and can recognize reality you will never get it, you like me are doomed to think that we got it wrong.

    As long as Obama is around we cannot let logic, honesty, the truth, or facts get in the way of our belief that he can do no wrong.

    Lest we be deemed some kind of racist, or other dumb-ass by the Leftists.

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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    They are not US helicopters, right?

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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    No. Don't you see that if you understand and can recognize reality you will never get it, you like me are doomed to think that we got it wrong.

    As long as Obama is around we cannot let logic, honesty, the truth, or facts get in the way of our belief that he can do no wrong.

    Lest we be deemed some kind of racist, or other dumb-ass by the Leftists.
    Apples and oranges.

    Bush said Iraq had WMD, but Hans Blix went in and inspected and found NONE. Powell went to the UN, said Iraq had WMD, but Powell lied like the rest of the Bush admin. The problem with Iraq was not that we invaded, it was that we invaded under false pretense. Cheney irroneously tried to make the case that Iraq was linked to 9/11, but the 9/11 commission found "no collaborative relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda".

    Wednesday, May 28, 2008
    Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan writes in a new memoir that the Iraq war was sold to the American people with a sophisticated "political propaganda campaign" led by President Bush and aimed at "manipulating sources of public opinion" and "downplaying the major reason for going to war."
    Ex-Press Aide Writes That Bush Misled U.S. on Iraq - washingtonpost.com

    That condemnation form Bush's own longtime friend, who could not stand the lies any longer.

    On Libya, there was an uprising going on, that is not a lie. The US chose to support it, and to involve NATO in support of the rebels. You will note, those are NATO attack helicopters, not US.

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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    I'm confused. Maybe that is the way it is for Independents. It seems to me that a hell of a lot of conservatives and Republicans were damn near joyous over Bush's invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. Democrats, by and large, were opposed. Many said they voted for Obama, in part, because he promised to fully withdraw US troops from Irag. Many believed he would de-escalate the war in Afghanistan. As a point of clarification, I did not vote for Obama though I would have supported complete withdrawal of all US troops from the Gulf and Middle East.

    To date Obama has escalated the war in Afghanistan, has not withdrawn all troops from Iraq, has increased hostile actions in Pakistan and has attacked Libya and now has troops in-country there. Now the Republicans are opposed to increases in hostile actions. Democrats, as always, can't seem to decide what it is they want or when they want whatever it is they want. What an effing mess! AND we cannot afford any of it!










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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I'm confused. Maybe that is the way it is for Independents. It seems to me that a hell of a lot of conservatives and Republicans were damn near joyous over Bush's invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. Democrats, by and large, were opposed. Many said they voted for Obama, in part, because he promised to fully withdraw US troops from Irag. Many believed he would de-escalate the war in Afghanistan. As a point of clarification, I did not vote for Obama though I would have supported complete withdrawal of all US troops from the Gulf and Middle East.

    To date Obama has escalated the war in Afghanistan, has not withdrawn all troops from Iraq, has increased hostile actions in Pakistan and has attacked Libya and now has troops in-country there. Now the Republicans are opposed to increases in hostile actions. Democrats, as always, can't seem to decide what it is they want or when they want whatever it is they want. What an effing mess! AND we cannot afford any of it!
    Sounds like you nailed it...what part are you confused about?

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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    You see its because IN MY HEAD liberals are HIPPY DIPPIES who would never support war. Therefore IN MY HEAD they appear to be hypocrites when its actually the principles behind the war and the pursuit of JUST WAR that is the issue. Cant get my head around the JUST WAR thing where they think they are better than conservatives for not supporting UNJUST WARS. And btw I dont support this war cause the liberals do....



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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    You see its because IN MY HEAD liberals are HIPPY DIPPIES who would never support war. Therefore IN MY HEAD they appear to be hypocrites when its actually the principles behind the war and the pursuit of JUST WAR that is the issue. Cant get my head around the JUST WAR thing where they think they are better than conservatives for not supporting UNJUST WARS. And btw I dont support this war cause the liberals do....


    So...endorsing an attack on Libya because they have a brutal dictator is a 'just war'?

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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    increased hostile actions in Pakistan and has attacked Libya and now has troops in-country there.
    What?

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    an attack on Libya because they have a brutal dictator is a 'just war'?
    If one defines brutal as 'bombs his own people with their air force, for 6 days and no end in sight'.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 06-04-11 at 03:26 PM.

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