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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm not sure what the presence of attack helicopters has to do with anything. I don't think they are ours (American).
    No, they're British Apaches.
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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    No, they're British Apaches.
    Does the US even have navalized apaches? I know the marine corp was interested in the British tests but I don't know if anything more came about it. Last I checked, it was just the Cobra that was navalized as an primary attack helo.
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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    BEIRUT, Lebanon — Syrian forces killed at least 63 civilians in attacks to crush pro-democracy demonstrations on Friday, the Syrian human rights organization Sawasiah said on Saturday. Sawasiah said 53 demonstrators were killed in the city of Hama, one in Damascus and two in the northwestern province of Idlib.
    Seven people were also killed in the town of Rastan in central Syria, which has been under a military assault and a siege by tanks since Sunday.


    Outrage I tellya...this just goes against American morality and values, and an American president CANNOT not respond...

    well...

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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    No, they're British Apaches.
    I don't think the Brits have UH-64's. As far as I know, only Egypt, Israel and The Netherlands have them.

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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Does the US even have navalized apaches? I know the marine corp was interested in the British tests but I don't know if anything more came about it. Last I checked, it was just the Cobra that was navalized as an primary attack helo.
    The Marines use the Cobra and the Huey. No navalized Apaches.
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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't think the Brits have UH-64's. As far as I know, only Egypt, Israel and The Netherlands have them.
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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    I stand corrected.

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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The non-War has moved ahead as Obama is lies about our mission.

    Is it remotely possible that Obama has been less than forthright in the degree of our involvement in the Libyan theater. Say it's not so.


    Looks like a war to me.
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    It is war and even Obama called it unconstitutional.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I know of no UN Resolutions Libya has defied and, as well, there were worse cases of genocide, in Darfur for example, where the world did nothing.

    I certainly have no sympathy for Gadaffi, but this thing stinks.
    Dafur should of had international involvement. Clinton even says thats his biggest regret.


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    The fact is that this war is, from an American point of view, illegal. That is a fact.

    We've also had little information about what's going on as well as direct lies, i.e. 'boots on the ground'.

    Maybe you are right. Maybe what they are saying is true. But we also know of war's first causality.

    I withhold judgment and remain very skeptical,
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    Re: NATO Uses Attack Helicopters for First Time in Libya

    A little something borrowed by RT from last night's UK news.

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