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Dismal Jobs Report Fuels GOP Criticism of Administration on Economy

Cue "the republicans are causing this by holding the debt ceiling hostage" in 3...2...1...
 
The recent economic deceleration has little to do with the debt ceiling negotiations. It has more to do with the ongoing hand-off from stimulus to the private sector. In part, the macroeconomic deceleration in growth is the result of the hand-off from stimulus to the private sector. The hiring slowdown is a function of the broader deceleration in macroeconomic growth. Weekly unemployment claims is a somewhat leading indicator relative to macroeconomic activity. Overall employment is a somewhat lagging indicator. The deceleration holds lessons for the larger task of fiscal consolidation--a task that is necessary, even as it will entail pain and sacrifice in terms of reduced short-term economic growth and reduced short-term job creation (reduced from levels that would otherwise occur).

GDP:

Year-on-year (2010 Q1 to 2011 Q1), one has seen the following:

Change in real GDP: +2.3%
Change in real federal government consumption and investments: +2.1%
Change in real GDP ex. Federal Government: +2.3%

The hand-off began in earnest in 2011 Q1 and has continued. Annualized 2010 QIV to 2011 Q1 figures show that the hand off has sliced about 0.9% off annualized real GDP growth:

Change in real GDP: +1.8%
Change in real federal government consumption and investments: -7.9%
Change in real GDP ex. Federal Government: +2.7%

It should be noted that the figures likely understate the drag created by the hand-off, as a 1:1 impact is utilized, which ignores the reality that direct expenditures by the federal government have a multiplier > 1. For illustrative purposes, the impact is useful.

Weekly Unemployment Claims (12-week moving average):

Period Ending:
4/9 398,333
4/16 398,917
4/24 406,167
5/1 407,667
5/8 410,167
5/15 414,583
5/22 416,000

Change in Private-Sector Non-Farm Employment (6-month moving average):

Period Ending:
January 2011 +139,500
February 2011 +159,167
March 2011 +177,000
April 2011 +186,667
May 2011 +179,167

In sum, the data is consistent with the large body of empirical evidence that fiscal consolidation has a contractionary macroeconomic impact and employment growth is closely tied to macroeconomic performance and expectations about future macroeconomic performance.

Austerity/fiscal consolidation will not be painless. Political leaders who argue otherwise are ignoring empirical economic data. Nonetheless, it is necessary. The enhanced growth outlook would be a benefit for the medium-term and beyond (reduced risk premia, reduced debt overhang, etc.). The transition to the more sustainable fiscal position would entail sacrifice, including foregone short-term macroeconomic growth and foregone short-term job creation. The adverse macroeconomic and employment impact of business as usual would, of course, be much worse than the sacrifices during transition (fiscal consolidation).
 
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The recent economic deceleration has little to do with the debt ceiling negotiations. It has more to do with the ongoing hand-off from stimulus to the private sector. In part, the macroeconomic deceleration in growth is the result of the hand-off from stimulus to the private sector. The hiring slowdown is a function of the broader deceleration in macroeconomic growth. Weekly unemployment claims is a coincident to slightly lagging indicator relative to macroeconomic activity. Overall employment is a somewhat lagging indicator. The deceleration holds lessons for the larger task of fiscal consolidation--a task that is necessary, even as it will entail pain and sacrifice in terms of reduced short-term economic growth and reduced short-term job creation (reduced from levels that would otherwise occur).

GDP:

Year-on-year (2010 Q1 to 2011 Q1), one has seen the following:

Change in real GDP: +2.3%
Change in real federal government consumption and investments: +2.1%
Change in real GDP ex. Federal Government: +2.3%

The hand-off began in earnest in 2011 Q1 and has continued. Annualized 2010 QIV to 2011 Q1 figures show that the hand off has sliced about 0.9% off annualized real GDP growth:

Change in real GDP: +1.8%
Change in real federal government consumption and investments: -7.9%
Change in real GDP ex. Federal Government: +2.7%

It should be noted that the figures likely understate the drag created by the hand-off, as a 1:1 impact is utilized, which ignores the reality that direct expenditures by the federal government have a multiplier > 1. For illustrative purposes, the impact is useful.

Weekly Unemployment Claims (12-week moving average):

Period Ending:
4/9 398,333
4/16 398,917
4/24 406,167
5/1 407,667
5/8 410,167
5/15 414,583
5/22 416,000

Change in Private-Sector Non-Farm Employment (6-month moving average):

Period Ending:
January 2011 +139,500
February 2011 +159,167
March 2011 +177,000
April 2011 +186,667
May 2011 +179,167

In sum, the data is consistent with the large body of empirical evidence that fiscal consolidation has a contractionary macroeconomic impact and employment growth is closely tied to macroeconomic performance and expectations about future macroeconomic performance.

Austerity/fiscal consolidation will not be painless. Political leaders who argue otherwise are ignoring empirical economic data. Nonetheless, it is necessary. The enhanced growth outlook would be a benefit for the medium-term and beyond (reduced risk premia, reduced debt overhang, etc.). The transition to the more sustainable fiscal position would entail sacrifice, including foregone short-term macroeconomic growth and foregone short-term job creation. The adverse macroeconomic and employment impact of business as usual would, of course, be much worse than the sacrifices during transition (fiscal consolidation).

Damn it Don, don't throw off my flow!
 
I would like to remind the liberals on this board that in 2009, Obama presented a chart of what unemployment would look like if we passed his trillion dollar stimulus. At this time, it should be below 7 percent. Liar n chief lies again.

Thank God we spent that trillion dollars, huh? I mean imagine what it would be if we weren't in debt up to our eyeballs?
 
I would like to remind the liberals on this board that in 2009, Obama presented a chart of what unemployment would look like if we passed his trillion dollar stimulus. At this time, it should be below 7 percent. Liar n chief lies again.

Thank God we spent that trillion dollars, huh? I mean imagine what it would be if we weren't in debt up to our eyeballs?

It's because of the republicans. They stopped so much legislation that it killed his stimulus. Which is working!! Vote Obama, 2012!

*headdesk*
 
It's because of the republicans. They stopped so much legislation that it killed his stimulus. Which is working!! Vote Obama, 2012!

*headdesk*

Right.... It would have been a great PR move to tell the nation that we were inches away from a super depression (not to be confused with a great depression that occurred in the 1930's):roll:
 
I would like to remind the liberals on this board that in 2009, Obama presented a chart of what unemployment would look like if we passed his trillion dollar stimulus. At this time, it should be below 7 percent. Liar n chief lies again.

Thank God we spent that trillion dollars, huh? I mean imagine what it would be if we weren't in debt up to our eyeballs?

I would like to remind our conservative on the board that the chart and the report it came from made clear repeatedly that it was a projection and could be wrong based on how things went.

Being wrong on future events now is lying. Good thing we never use stupid rhetoric around here...
 
Cue "the republicans are causing this by holding the debt ceiling hostage" in 3...2...1...

Wait, aren't you guys the ones who keep saying uncertainty causes a lot of this lack of hiring?
 
Until you realize that the government can't do much to create jobs.

I would like to remind the liberals on this board that in 2009, Obama presented a chart of what unemployment would look like if we passed his trillion dollar stimulus. At this time, it should be below 7 percent. Liar n chief lies again.

Then we shouldn't believe the Ryan budget for the same reasons. 2.5% unemployment? Are you insane?
 
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Wait, aren't you guys the ones who keep saying uncertainty causes a lot of this lack of hiring?

I don't know if I said that, to be honest. It makes sense, of course. But the issue is bigger than uncertainty alone. Lack of business due to lack of cash flow means lack of need for employees, for example.
 
I don't know if I said that, to be honest. It makes sense, of course. But the issue is bigger than uncertainty alone. Lack of business due to lack of cash flow means lack of need for employees, for example.

And the lack of cash flow is despite the fact that businesses were given billions in cheap loans.
 
And the lack of cash flow is despite the fact that businesses were given billions in cheap loans.

Because buyers need money, not sellers. The caveat on the money should have been that it went into retirement plans and employee payroll instead of corporate investments.
 
Damn it Obama !!!! He should have listen to the republicans and gave the wealthy Americans the tax cuts that would have started job creation. We would be in a much better situation right now.... Oh wait:ssst:
 
Because buyers need money, not sellers. The caveat on the money should have been that it went into retirement plans and employee payroll instead of corporate investments.

But but socialism is bad :doh

Edit in case it wasn't clear, I agree with you. Had the move for bailouts been given to people with mortgages, it would have had a much better affect on the economy. It would have had the same moral hazards though
 
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But but socialism is bad :doh

Don't get me wrong. I didn't support the Stimulus. But since it was done, it could have been done in a more productive manner.
 
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Damn it Obama !!!! He should have listen to the republicans and gave the wealthy Americans the tax cuts that would have started job creation. We would be in a much better situation right now.... Oh wait:ssst:

...everybody (all income levels) maintained the same cuts that Bush and a democrat-heavy legislature agreed upon. Nobody received additional tax breaks. We all received a break on "withholdings" that was affective for one year, but it didn't change obligation. Not sure what you're talking about.
 
Until you realize that the government can't do much to create jobs.



Then we shouldn't believe the Ryan budget for the same reasons. 2.5% unemployment? Are you insane?

Um, is he president of the United States?
 
Um is he the repub standard barer right now? Yup. Is he the repubs sacrificial lamb? Yup.

who's making proposals for the dems? even Obama's "budget" was a shell, more concepts than hard numbers.
 
The recent economic deceleration has little to do with the debt ceiling negotiations. It has more to do with the ongoing hand-off from stimulus to the private sector. In part, the macroeconomic deceleration in growth is the result of the hand-off from stimulus to the private sector. The hiring slowdown is a function of the broader deceleration in macroeconomic growth. Weekly unemployment claims is a somewhat leading indicator relative to macroeconomic activity. Overall employment is a somewhat lagging indicator. The deceleration holds lessons for the larger task of fiscal consolidation--a task that is necessary, even as it will entail pain and sacrifice in terms of reduced short-term economic growth and reduced short-term job creation (reduced from levels that would otherwise occur).

GDP:

Year-on-year (2010 Q1 to 2011 Q1), one has seen the following:

Change in real GDP: +2.3%
Change in real federal government consumption and investments: +2.1%
Change in real GDP ex. Federal Government: +2.3%

The hand-off began in earnest in 2011 Q1 and has continued. Annualized 2010 QIV to 2011 Q1 figures show that the hand off has sliced about 0.9% off annualized real GDP growth:

Change in real GDP: +1.8%
Change in real federal government consumption and investments: -7.9%
Change in real GDP ex. Federal Government: +2.7%

It should be noted that the figures likely understate the drag created by the hand-off, as a 1:1 impact is utilized, which ignores the reality that direct expenditures by the federal government have a multiplier > 1. For illustrative purposes, the impact is useful.

Weekly Unemployment Claims (12-week moving average):

Period Ending:
4/9 398,333
4/16 398,917
4/24 406,167
5/1 407,667
5/8 410,167
5/15 414,583
5/22 416,000

Change in Private-Sector Non-Farm Employment (6-month moving average):

Period Ending:
January 2011 +139,500
February 2011 +159,167
March 2011 +177,000
April 2011 +186,667
May 2011 +179,167

In sum, the data is consistent with the large body of empirical evidence that fiscal consolidation has a contractionary macroeconomic impact and employment growth is closely tied to macroeconomic performance and expectations about future macroeconomic performance.

Austerity/fiscal consolidation will not be painless. Political leaders who argue otherwise are ignoring empirical economic data. Nonetheless, it is necessary. The enhanced growth outlook would be a benefit for the medium-term and beyond (reduced risk premia, reduced debt overhang, etc.). The transition to the more sustainable fiscal position would entail sacrifice, including foregone short-term macroeconomic growth and foregone short-term job creation. The adverse macroeconomic and employment impact of business as usual would, of course, be much worse than the sacrifices during transition (fiscal consolidation).

Rewording IMF .pdf documents, not citing them trying to look smart...

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2010/02/pdf/c3.pdf

For shame don, for shame sir.
 
Damn it Obama !!!! He should have listen to the republicans and gave the wealthy Americans the tax cuts that would have started job creation. We would be in a much better situation right now.... Oh wait:ssst:

LOL Really the only reson why the pubs did so well in midterm was that they were the job creaters... Maybe we need more time for trickle down to work? I guess pubs enjoy a good golden shower...(am I bad?)
 
...everybody (all income levels) maintained the same cuts that Bush and a democrat-heavy legislature agreed upon. Nobody received additional tax breaks. We all received a break on "withholdings" that was affective for one year, but it didn't change obligation. Not sure what you're talking about.

My point is that we should have never extended the Bush tax cuts to the wealthy americans. The GOP whole argument is if we tax the rich, they would cut jobs. Well guess what, we gave them whated and they are still cutting jobs. And now the Ryan plan is trying to lower it another 10% !!!! WTF!!!!!
 
My point is that we should have never extended the Bush tax cuts to the wealthy americans. The GOP whole argument is if we tax the rich, they would cut jobs. Well guess what, we gave them whated and they are still cutting jobs. And now the Ryan plan is trying to lower it another 10% !!!! WTF!!!!!

I'm not going to address the GOP argument. We have different perspectives and it's a non-issue now.

The Ryan plan was voted down. Now there are no plans...including anything coming from the left. So what now? Where do we go?
 
Because buyers need money, not sellers. The caveat on the money should have been that it went into retirement plans and employee payroll instead of corporate investments.

Dear lord, a conservative who understands that customers are the real "job creators." Quick, somebody tag her with a tranq dart for further study.
 
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