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    Re: John Edwards indicted by grand jury

    Just so there is no misunderstanding, the indictment has nothing to do with adultery. It is about campaign finance fraud.

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    Re: John Edwards indicted by grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    Why was he even questioned about his affair in the first place.
    Because a couple of the women that were involved brought lawsuits against him for sexual harassment.

    It is not our business.
    Some people agree with this, some might not. It's not completely unreasonable to want to hold our public officials to a high moral standard. If you aren't willing to be honest and loyal in your personal life, then what guarantees do I have that you won't treat the country and its people the same way?

    You can be a perfectly capable leader, teacher, etc even if you are a drug addicted prostitute on the side as long as you keep the two separate.
    Lol, I'm sure this is a bit of a hyperbole because with drugs you can't keep anything separate, even with something as simple as weed. But I understand what you are trying to say.

    He was wrong to lie about it but its just human to try and cover what you are ashamed of.
    Agreed.
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    Re: John Edwards indicted by grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    I have been cheated on by a long time partner who I loved and trusted with my life and it sucked. But I don't want to send him to court or ruin his life/career for it.

    Also, try spell a little better that was somewhat difficult to read.
    Yes, people cheat. But it's hugely different for elected officials, especially powerful Washington officials. It should be a high priority among voters to elect people of the utmost character in this regard.

    Here's why.

    Let's say President X has a thing for young interns. Lots of them. And let's say he's a bit kinky at that, and his re-election campaign is around the corner. Now let's say China knows about it and has proof, and it has means to get that information into the media. China needs some key information in the development of their nuclear tracking systems......

    You see, integrity means everything when you have that kind of consequential power. It matters TREMENDOUSLY, even moreso than anything else. Those skeletons in the closet had better be out there already, or you could be compromised.

    And believe it or not, lots of people have character. Lots of people stay true to their commitments and vows. Not most, but certainly there are people who adhere to their word.

    We've just got to make sure not to give the keys to the wrong people.

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    Re: John Edwards indicted by grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    We've just got to make sure not to give the keys to the wrong people.
    We've been giving the keys to the wrong people for a looooooong time.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: John Edwards indicted by grand jury

    What would have happened if Bush lied to a grand jury. You think people would be all, "oh well, he's not perfect"?

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    Re: John Edwards indicted by grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yes, people cheat. But it's hugely different for elected officials, especially powerful Washington officials. It should be a high priority among voters to elect people of the utmost character in this regard.

    Here's why.

    Let's say President X has a thing for young interns. Lots of them. And let's say he's a bit kinky at that, and his re-election campaign is around the corner. Now let's say China knows about it and has proof, and it has means to get that information into the media. China needs some key information in the development of their nuclear tracking systems......

    You see, integrity means everything when you have that kind of consequential power. It matters TREMENDOUSLY, even moreso than anything else. Those skeletons in the closet had better be out there already, or you could be compromised.

    And believe it or not, lots of people have character. Lots of people stay true to their commitments and vows. Not most, but certainly there are people who adhere to their word.

    We've just got to make sure not to give the keys to the wrong people.
    you make a good case.....you DO mean all cheaters, right?

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    Re: John Edwards indicted by grand jury

    Don't see why this has to become a discussion about "what men think". This is about ONE man who made a series of very bad choices and is now paying the price for it.

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    Re: John Edwards indicted by grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    I have been cheated on by a long time partner who I loved and trusted with my life and it sucked. But I don't want to send him to court or ruin his life/career for it.

    Also, try spell a little better that was somewhat difficult to read.
    This is about Edwards being indicted for breaking the law and it's poetic justice that what I see here.

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    Re: John Edwards indicted by grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    you make a good case.....you DO mean all cheaters, right?
    Yes I do, which is why Newt is out for me. I love his love of history, and he's an extremely bright man, but I don't trust his personal judgments in terms of what they could do to his presidential judgments.

    Consider this. If you were in sixth grade in 1998, you had to hear about cum on a blue dress involving your president. If you were a teacher, how would you handle those questions from class? THAT was the supposedly highest example of leadership in your country.

    It shouldn't be that hard to find good people. My dad's never cheated on my mom. I'd bet my life on it. I've never cheated on my wife of 13 years either. That doesn't make us mutants; there are lots of people who don't live wrecklessly. We just have to elect leaders that AT LEAST follow basic principles, and stop voting for American Idol contestants.

    Now, that doesn't mean "cheaters" are useless. They're just not to be trusted with highly sensitive national security information, and they shouldn't be held up as the leaders of what we represent as a nation.
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    Re: John Edwards indicted by grand jury

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yes I do, which is why Newt is out for me. I love his love of history, and he's an extremely bright man, but I don't trust his personal judgments in terms of what they could do to his presidential judgments.

    Consider this. If you were in sixth grade in 1998, you had to hear about cum on a blue dress involving your president. If you were a teacher, how would you handle those questions from class? THAT was the supposedly highest example of leadership in your country.

    It shouldn't be that hard to find good people. My dad's never cheated on my mom. I'd bet my life on it. I've never cheated on my wife of 13 years either. That doesn't make us mutants; there are lots of people who don't live wrecklessly. We just have to elect leaders that AT LEAST follow basic principles, and stop voting for American Idol contestants.

    Now, that doesn't mean "cheaters" are useless. They're just not to be trusted with highly sensitive national security information, and they shouldn't be held up as the leaders of what we represent as a nation.
    Right, because an unrealistic scenario like that would most assuredly happen. People are going to screw up. There are always skeletons in the closet. Nobody is a paradigm of virtue and we certainly won't elect somebody who is. To think our national security is in severe jeopardy because some guy likes to pork interns in latex, hanging from nipple hooks? A bit of a stretch.
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