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    Re: More Job Seekers Give Up

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yay, unemployment drops!!!........ well, sorta ...........




    remember ya'll : Keynesian Stimulus Bills worked in 2008 to avoid a recession, and they worked in 2009 to keep unemployment low. Don't you go believing your lying eyes, and don't forget to vote Democrat in 2012!
    What happened to individual responsibility and the market? I don't understand how you can constantly claim that people and the market make up the economy, and the gov't can to do nothing to improve it. Then when there's a down turn you don't call on people to be more competitive, or businesses to be more competitive and survive the rough times, no you call upon the government to do something to fix the economy or "let it be fixxed." Where's the power of the individual and business?

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    Re: More Job Seekers Give Up

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Where's the power of the individual and business?
    right now, according to wapo, it's "fearful," "scared," "uncertain," "dried up," "doubts chipping away at confidence," unable to muster "that leap of faith required to expand," experiencing "trepidation..."

    is anyone surprised?

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    Re: More Job Seekers Give Up

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    What happened to individual responsibility and the market? I don't understand how you can constantly claim that people and the market make up the economy, and the gov't can to do nothing to improve it. Then when there's a down turn you don't call on people to be more competitive, or businesses to be more competitive and survive the rough times, no you call upon the government to do something to fix the economy or "let it be fixxed." Where's the power of the individual and business?
    The government can improve the market. However, higher taxes and out of control government spending isn't the way to go about it. The best way for the government to improve the market, is to get the hell out of the way.

    Where's the power of the individual and business?
    It's been neutralized by Obamacare, the threat of higher taxes and over-regulation. Drilling moratoium, anyone? Explain to us, please, how shutting down a private industry had a positive effect on the economy. As always, thanks in advance.
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    Re: More Job Seekers Give Up

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The government can improve the market. However, higher taxes and out of control government spending isn't the way to go about it. The best way for the government to improve the market, is to get the hell out of the way.

    It's been neutralized by Obamacare, the threat of higher taxes and over-regulation. Drilling moratoium, anyone? Explain to us, please, how shutting down a private industry had a positive effect on the economy. As always, thanks in advance.
    Ah my mistake I misunderstood your position. But regardless I'd hardly say that the power of individuals and businesses to grow and be successfully has been neutralized , its certainly harder than it once was but that doesn't mean its entirely gone, thats the only point I'm making. And I don't support the drilling moratorium anyway.

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    Re: More Job Seekers Give Up

    I was being sarcastic...i thought that was pretty clear when i said that this administration is a failure so far...embarrassed?

    Next time quote what i said instead of taking just a piece...

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    Re: More Job Seekers Give Up

    barack the slasher to the sf chron, january, 08:

    "If somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."

    Barack Obama to Bankrupt Coal Plants - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com

    know the man

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    Re: More Job Seekers Give Up

    Quote Originally Posted by fbi10 View Post
    i thought that was pretty clear when i said that this administration is a failure so far
    i was supplying documentation for the truth of what you pointed out

    keep up the good work

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    Re: More Job Seekers Give Up

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Ah my mistake I misunderstood your position. But regardless I'd hardly say that the power of individuals and businesses to grow and be successfully has been neutralized , its certainly harder than it once was but that doesn't mean its entirely gone, thats the only point I'm making.
    So, you're claiming that the drilling ban didn't neutralize--thanks for the help--individual ability to make a living?

    And I don't support the drilling moratorium anyway.
    Support it, or not, the point is, government policies influence the private sector. All of Obama's policies have had a negative influence on private sector growth. IMO, destroying private sector industries is his primary objective. he hates private businesses.
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    Re: More Job Seekers Give Up

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    What happened to individual responsibility and the market? I don't understand how you can constantly claim that people and the market make up the economy, and the gov't can to do nothing to improve it.
    they can't. they can only set the conditions to allow it to improve itself.

    what they can do, however, is harm it.

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    Re: More Job Seekers Give Up

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Man, I love me some over the top hyperbole and misrepresented facts. Remember when the economy was bleeding jobs by several hundred thousand a month? Funny how you forget details like that.
    nope. i was pissed off then too. Bush was dumb enough to fall for the "stimulate the economy" line as well.

    but if you can demonstrate some misrepresented facts i'd love to see' em.

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