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More Job Seekers Give Up

Then we just expand welfare and the proccess never ends.

We need jobs!

We need incentives for companies to stay in this country!

We need to make it easier for businesses to start up and thrive!
 
wapo:

Behind the hard numbers in Friday’s dismal report on the job market are scared small-business owners, slashed state budgets, dried-up federal stimulus funds and a lingering uncertainty that has taken hold from corporate boardrooms to factory floors around the country. That deterioration in the labor market marks only the latest in a slew of recent signs that the economic recovery is losing momentum.

Employers from coast to coast describe a situation in which tepid economic growth alone isn’t enough to prompt them to add to their payrolls. Sales have been rising, but slowly and tenuously. Doubts about the future have continued to chip away at confidence and prevented many business people from taking the leap of faith required to expand and hire new workers.

“Everybody is so fearful right now because of the uncertainty about the future,” said Bill Hall, who owns five Dairy Queen franchises around Fort Worth. “It’s a problem that’s impacting all of us. That uncertainty and that fear is the number one reason you’re not seeing job growth. . . . Everybody is in a situation where they’re afraid to make a move. Unfortunately, that’s caused everything to come to a standstill.”

That standstill showed in the numbers released Friday, which revealed that the job market weakened across a wide range of industries in May. Manufacturers cut 5,000 jobs, due in part to disruptions from the earthquake in Japan. Retailers shed 8,500 jobs. The leisure and hospitality industry cut 6,000 jobs.

The largest job losses were in a public sector that is rapidly retrenching. Local governments have been cutting jobs in vast numbers — 28,000 in May — trying to eliminate their yawning budget gaps by dismissing public employees.

Employers add fewest jobs in eight months; unemployment jumps to 9.1 percent - The Washington Post
 
Companies have bought out other companies instead of hiring workers. This has caused more workers to lose jobs (rightfully so). Companies are sitting on what trillions in reserves? What causes job growth again?

Care to take a stab at explaining why they're not spending those trillions? Government policies, perhaps? Two words: drilling. moratorium. What positive effect did that have on the economy?
 
If you want to blame anyone, blame Bush, it was during his administration the economy went south.

It went south when the Democrats controlled Congress.
 
This civil rights lawyer and community organizer we have for a president doesn't understand business. All the more reason to vote for Herman Cain.
 
This civil rights lawyer and community organizer we have for a president doesn't understand business. All the more reason to vote for Herman Cain.

He hates private business. Ditto on Herman Cain.
 
It went south when the Democrats controlled Congress.

Actually both parties need to be blamed, the Democrats moreso, but also the Republicans.

We failed to lead with conservative policies when we had control and now we are paying, the Democrats just made it a lot worse.
 
He hates private business. Ditto on Herman Cain.

Herman Cain spent years in private business.

He wants to lower corporate rates and bring capital gains to zero.

EDIT-I think you were agreeing with me on Cain
 
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Herman Cain spent years in private business.

He wants to lower corporate rates and bring capital gains to zero.

EDIT-I think you were agreeing with me on Cain

You're thinking exactly right.
 
Yay, unemployment drops!!!........ well, sorta ........... :(




remember ya'll : Keynesian Stimulus Bills worked in 2008 to avoid a recession, and they worked in 2009 to keep unemployment low. Don't you go believing your lying eyes, and don't forget to vote Democrat in 2012!

What happened to individual responsibility and the market? I don't understand how you can constantly claim that people and the market make up the economy, and the gov't can to do nothing to improve it. Then when there's a down turn you don't call on people to be more competitive, or businesses to be more competitive and survive the rough times, no you call upon the government to do something to fix the economy or "let it be fixxed." Where's the power of the individual and business?
 
Where's the power of the individual and business?

right now, according to wapo, it's "fearful," "scared," "uncertain," "dried up," "doubts chipping away at confidence," unable to muster "that leap of faith required to expand," experiencing "trepidation..."

is anyone surprised?
 
What happened to individual responsibility and the market? I don't understand how you can constantly claim that people and the market make up the economy, and the gov't can to do nothing to improve it. Then when there's a down turn you don't call on people to be more competitive, or businesses to be more competitive and survive the rough times, no you call upon the government to do something to fix the economy or "let it be fixxed." Where's the power of the individual and business?

The government can improve the market. However, higher taxes and out of control government spending isn't the way to go about it. The best way for the government to improve the market, is to get the hell out of the way.

Where's the power of the individual and business?

It's been neutralized by Obamacare, the threat of higher taxes and over-regulation. Drilling moratoium, anyone? Explain to us, please, how shutting down a private industry had a positive effect on the economy. As always, thanks in advance.
 
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The government can improve the market. However, higher taxes and out of control government spending isn't the way to go about it. The best way for the government to improve the market, is to get the hell out of the way.

It's been neutralized by Obamacare, the threat of higher taxes and over-regulation. Drilling moratoium, anyone? Explain to us, please, how shutting down a private industry had a positive effect on the economy. As always, thanks in advance.

Ah my mistake I misunderstood your position. But regardless I'd hardly say that the power of individuals and businesses to grow and be successfully has been neutralized , its certainly harder than it once was but that doesn't mean its entirely gone, thats the only point I'm making. And I don't support the drilling moratorium anyway.
 
i thought that was pretty clear when i said that this administration is a failure so far

i was supplying documentation for the truth of what you pointed out

keep up the good work
 
Ah my mistake I misunderstood your position. But regardless I'd hardly say that the power of individuals and businesses to grow and be successfully has been neutralized , its certainly harder than it once was but that doesn't mean its entirely gone, thats the only point I'm making.

So, you're claiming that the drilling ban didn't neutralize--thanks for the help--individual ability to make a living?

And I don't support the drilling moratorium anyway.

Support it, or not, the point is, government policies influence the private sector. All of Obama's policies have had a negative influence on private sector growth. IMO, destroying private sector industries is his primary objective. he hates private businesses.
 
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What happened to individual responsibility and the market? I don't understand how you can constantly claim that people and the market make up the economy, and the gov't can to do nothing to improve it.

they can't. they can only set the conditions to allow it to improve itself.

what they can do, however, is harm it.
 
Man, I love me some over the top hyperbole and misrepresented facts. Remember when the economy was bleeding jobs by several hundred thousand a month? Funny how you forget details like that.

nope. i was pissed off then too. Bush was dumb enough to fall for the "stimulate the economy" line as well.

but if you can demonstrate some misrepresented facts i'd love to see' em.
 
It's not lies, it is simply a different measure. No one measures true unemployment, and the number Councilman gave is not true unemployment. The "official" unemployment rate is simply the rate used historically and used for comparisons sake, but BLS keeps a whole tab of differently calculated rates, including that one, which is called U6 unemployment.

Think this link will work: Table A-12. Unemployed persons by duration of unemployment


Your actually quite right about U6 standards being a better measure. If we were to measure by U6 standards, we have Great Depression employment, according to some
 
yesterday:

China has dropped 97 percent of its holdings in U.S. Treasury bills, decreasing its ownership of the short-term U.S. government securities from a peak of $210.4 billion in May 2009 to $5.69 billion in March 2011, the most recent month reported by the U.S. Treasury.

Until October, the Chinese were generally making up for their decreasing holdings in Treasury bills by increasing their holdings of longer-term U.S. Treasury securities. Thus, until October, China’s overall holdings of U.S. debt continued to increase.

Since October, however, China has also started to divest from longer-term U.S. Treasury securities. Thus, as reported by the Treasury Department, China’s ownership of the U.S. national debt has decreased in each of the last five months on record, including November, December, January, February and March. [but only by about 2%]

Most of the U.S. national debt is made up of publicly marketable securities sold by the Treasury Department and I.O.U.s called “intragovernmental” bonds that the Treasury has given to so-called government trust funds—such as the Social Security trust funds—when it has spent the trust funds’ money on other government expenses.

The publicly marketable segment of the national debt includes Treasury bills, which (as defined by the Treasury) mature in terms of one-year or less; Treasury notes, which mature in terms of 2 to 10 years; Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS), which mature in terms of 5, 10 and 30 years; and Treasury bonds, which mature in terms of 30 years.

At the end of August 2008, before the financial bailout and the stimulus, the publicly marketable segment of the U.S. national debt was 4.88 trillion. Of that, $1.22 trillion was in short-term Treasury bills, $2.56 trillion was in the intermediate-term Treasury notes, $521.3 billion was in TIPS, and $582.8 billion was in long-term Treasury bonds.

At the end of March 2011, by which time the Chinese had dropped their Treasury bill holdings 97 percent from their peak, the publicly marketable segment of the U.S. national debt had almost doubled from August 2008, hitting $9.11 trillion. Of that $9.11 trillion, $1.7 trillion was in short-term Treasury bills, $5.8 trillion was in intermediate-term Treasury notes, $640.7 billion was in TIPS, and $931.5 billion was in long-term Treasury bonds.

Before the end of March 2012, the Treasury must redeem all of the $1.7 trillion in Treasury bills that were extant as of March 2011 and find new or old buyers who will continue to invest in U.S. debt. But, for now, the Chinese at least do not appear to be bullish customers of short-term U.S. debt.

China Has Divested 97 Percent of Its Holdings in U.S. Treasury Bills | CNSnews.com

cns notes in conclusion that us debt at close of business thursday was 14.34T according to daily treas statement, 9.74T of which is public held, 4.61T "intragovernmental"

fyi
 
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This civil rights lawyer and community organizer we have for a president doesn't understand business. All the more reason to vote for Herman Cain.

What are Herman Cain's policies again? Oh thats right, talking points.

Care to take a stab at explaining why they're not spending those trillions? Government policies, perhaps? Two words: drilling. moratorium. What positive effect did that have on the economy?

1) Drilling moratorium ended
2) There are more wells leased today than there were under the last president. Most of them aren't being tapped. I wonder why
3) Contraction always happens after recession
4) Not all jobs are energy related
5) Productivity has increased since the recession
6) Companies have consolidated/merged since the recession, ending more jobs.
 
What are Herman Cain's policies again? Oh thats right, talking points.



1) Drilling moratorium ended
2) There are more wells leased today than there were under the last president. Most of them aren't being tapped. I wonder why
3) Contraction always happens after recession
4) Not all jobs are energy related
5) Productivity has increased since the recession
6) Companies have consolidated/merged since the recession, ending more jobs.

1) Moritorium is still in place if new permits arent issues and they arent.
2) Leased wells involve costs to actually drill there.
3) Funny I thought growth occurred after a recession, thats why they call it recovery.
4) BUT---all jobs are affected by energy policy.
5) US productivity actually went up and down during the recession, it going up to previous levels isnt news : Worker Productivity in U.S. Unexpectedly Fell in 2nd Quarter - Bloomberg
6) Closing hundreds of car dealerships might have ended jobs, preventing energy expansion might have prevented job growth, health care reform is preventing new hires with prohibitive per employee costs, etc etc. We have tons of bad policy.

FYI Cain doesnt have policy until hes in charge, its ALL talking points until they are in charge of something.
 
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