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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    As far as I am concerned. Good. I don't mind pissing in front of someone, do it all the time in a public restroom. It really is simple. Do drugs, don't eat. Don't do drugs and eat. Personally I'd rather eat. But hey...thats just me.
    If it was just the drug users, I would agree with you, but I don't believe in making their children starve to prove a point. I am just not that cold hearted.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If it was just the drug users, I would agree with you, but I don't believe in making their children starve to prove a point. I am just not that cold hearted.
    Knew someone would bring this up. IMO anyone that does drugs should have thier children taken away. Do this and the children won't suffer not only from not having food but also from not having drug addicts as parents.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If it was just the drug users, I would agree with you, but I don't believe in making their children starve to prove a point. I am just not that cold hearted.
    I personally know ****heads on foodstamps, unemployment, medicaid and SSI that have no children.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It's simple logic. You take the poorest group of people who at the same time are addicted to drugs and you take the money away that they have been using to support their habit. Do you think they are magically going to be cured of their drug habits? Do you think that they are just going to be able to up and quit? These are not people who can afford treatment. These are people who will likely steal, prostitute, gamble, or whatever it takes to get their fix. They are going to end up in prison where the tax payers will end up paying a lot more. Heck, the drug tests aren't free either. That will cost tax payers quite substantially as well.

    You really think you are morally superior to these people? A lot of these people live very crappy lives and drugs are about the only escape they have. Most started well before they were even adults and have been addicted for years. All these kinds of laws do is take them off the streets and put them in prison on the tax payer's dime. If you were born in their circumstances, you would likely have turned out the same way.
    So allowing someone with a crappy life to remain addicted and on welfare is a good idea to you? I guess your logic suggests that Florida should even provide their drugs for them. Maybe they can get a good deal from the Mexican drug cartels. Then maybe fewer people will get killed in the war on drugs.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    So allowing someone with a crappy life to remain addicted and on welfare is a good idea to you?
    Oh goodness no. I think we should have treatment available. If you are going to give them a drug test, then also give them treatment.

    I guess your logic suggests that Florida should even provide their drugs for them. Maybe they can get a good deal from the Mexican drug cartels. Then maybe fewer people will get killed in the war on drugs.
    Typical conservative mentality. Either I'm for anti drug laws or I'm for drug cartels.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Oh goodness no. I think we should have treatment available. If you are going to give them a drug test, then also give them treatment.



    Typical conservative mentality. Either I'm for anti drug laws or I'm for drug cartels.
    So, I have to pay for the treatment, too? **** that ****!!

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    He and his wife should be the ones in jail IMO. Taxpayer money being funneled to his "wife's" company, what a joke.

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    Florida Gov. Rick Scott says it does.

    Scott has aggressively pursued policies like testing state workers and welfare recipients for drugs, switching Medicaid patients to private HMOs and shrinking public health clinics. All these changes could benefit that $62 million investment, but Scott sees no legal conflict between his public role and private investments.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    As far as I am concerned. Good. I don't mind pissing in front of someone, do it all the time in a public restroom. It really is simple. Do drugs, don't eat. Don't do drugs and eat. Personally I'd rather eat. But hey...thats just me.
    You are missing the point or perhaps you want to ignore it. We are not talking about drug addicts. Most people who need assistance from the state are NOT drug addicts. Most of the people who need public assistance are in dire straits because they can't find work.










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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    You are missing the point or perhaps you want to ignore it. We are not talking about drug addicts. Most people who need assistance from the state are NOT drug addicts. Most of the people who need public assistance are in dire straits because they can't find work.
    Nope, not missing the point. Being as most companies require drug testing before being hired those that are seeking work should not be doing drugs. If they are then of course they can't find work. Companies do not want to hire druggies. So, being as this is the case those that are actually seeking jobs and doing what it takes to get those jobs will not have to worry about failing a piss test. IE they will recieve the help they need because they are not doing drugs which would stop them from getting jobs.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If it was just the drug users, I would agree with you, but I don't believe in making their children starve to prove a point. I am just not that cold hearted.
    if they are drug addicts the kids need removed from the home until the parent gets clean. Sorry, that's just how I feel about it.
    Also if an able bodied person is on welfare they should be looking for work. You can't get hired anywhere if you can't pass a drug test. Oh yea, and if you take a drug test for a job, PLEASE DON'T CALL THE NEXT MORNING AND ASK IF YOU PASSED.
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