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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you think that your average welfare recipient can qualify for one of those jobs?
    Maybe now since the economy is still broken and the high tech sector got hit pretty hard. Who is the average welfare recipient?

    End of the day, people have the right to secure their persons against unreasonable search. Drug tests merely for accepting government dollars for assistance programs we've authorized to help the poor does not make for a reasonable search.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So we can't say anything about the billions being spent on subsidies because it will somehow magically "cost us jobs". But the poor. Well **** them bastards. Great
    Not all of them. Just the ones who are milking the system.



    No, you do not. It's like saying you bought an apple and the store, and now you get to demand how that store spends the money it took from you for the apple. It's time to stop using stupid arguments.
    And, I can stop shopping at that store, anytime I please. Just like I can stop voting for dumbass politicos who want to dump truckloads of money into the pockets of worthless reprabates.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Maybe now since the economy is still broken and the high tech sector got hit pretty hard. Who is the average welfare recipient?

    End of the day, people have the right to secure their persons against unreasonable search. Drug tests merely for accepting government dollars for assistance programs we've authorized to help the poor does not make for a reasonable search.


    Again, if they don't like it, don't apply for welfare.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What else is being exported from the middle east, Nikes?
    Cotton, fruit, livestock, car parts, textiles, etc. Not to mention the stuff that is imported. It's called, "trade", and trade makes money

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

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    Again, if they don't like it, don't apply for welfare.
    And again, your catch 22. It's dumb. It's against the point of having this stupid system. Welfare exists, it's their money once they recieve it. You no longer have a say in the matter. I'm not going to go after a handful of poor folk "milking" the system (I'm not sure what the numbers are, but I think most people on welfare would rather not be on welfare) because some people have a stick up their ass about some poor jerks doing drugs. We give away money to other people like candy and don't require any of this. But the poor folk, well we can do whatever the hell we want to them because they're poor. Unbelieveable. If we're going to have welfare as a system designed to help the less fortunate in times of need; then that's it. That's how it needs to work. The government still does not have rightful power to search these people nor deny them assistance on the results of that illegal search.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, I can stop shopping at that store, anytime I please. Just like I can stop voting for dumbass politicos who want to dump truckloads of money into the pockets of worthless reprabates.
    And that's where your influence is. You don't get to say how person X can spend his money. You vote for representatives and effect the system that way.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Cotton, fruit, livestock, car parts, textiles, etc. Not to mention the stuff that is imported. It's called, "trade", and trade makes money

    Kinda minor when compared to the amount of oil coming out of the middle east.

    It's called, "trade", and trade makes money
    Then the oil companies can pay for it themselves.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And again, your catch 22. It's dumb. It's against the point of having this stupid system. Welfare exists, it's their money once they recieve it. You no longer have a say in the matter. I'm not going to go after a handful of poor folk "milking" the system (I'm not sure what the numbers are, but I think most people on welfare would rather not be on welfare) because some people have a stick up their ass about some poor jerks doing drugs. We give away money to other people like candy and don't require any of this. But the poor folk, well we can do whatever the hell we want to them because they're poor. Unbelieveable. If we're going to have welfare as a system designed to help the less fortunate in times of need; then that's it. That's how it needs to work. The government still does not have rightful power to search these people nor deny them assistance on the results of that illegal search.
    But, it's my money before they receive it and I say that some of them shouldn't be getting it.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Kinda minor when compared to the amount of oil coming out of the middle east.



    Then the oil companies can pay for it themselves.
    Along with all the other shippers. Yes? You act as if oil tankers are the only commercial ships on the sea. Why the hard on for the oil and gas industry?

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Along with all the other shippers. Yes? You act as if oil tankers are the only commercial ships on the sea. Why the hard on for the oil and gas industry?

    Because as you say "But, it's my money before they receive it and I say that some of them shouldn't be getting it."

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