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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Approximately 84 billion tax dollars a year is spent keeping shipping lanes open so that oil companies can sell you gasoline.
    And, that's it, right? No other ships pass through those shipping lanes?

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Really? That's what you're down to now. Places like Agilent and such don't drug screen their tech support and engineers. More flawed argument on your part. Fail.
    I would bet that you're wrong, too.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you want to kill even more jobs, sure, that would be a great idea.
    So we can't say anything about the billions being spent on subsidies because it will somehow magically "cost us jobs". But the poor. Well **** them bastards. Great

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    It's my money that is being spent. I'm the customer. I get a say in what happens to that money.
    No, you do not. It's like saying you bought an apple and the store, and now you get to demand how that store spends the money it took from you for the apple. It's time to stop using stupid arguments.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, that's it, right? No other ships pass through those shipping lanes?

    What else is being exported from the middle east, Nikes?

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I would bet that you're wrong, too.
    Yeah, cause I totally don't know a bunch of folk that work there. You are so right.


    Oh wait, no you're not. Quit writing stupid remarks.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Because people will make emotional pleas and ask why no one is thinking of the children. Then we make certain substances illegal and allow the government to expand its powers beyond what it was meant to so that we can save the children by fighting this substance even though in the end all we do is waste our money and allow for some very dubious government activity.
    Right, and because anyone seriously advocating ending the war on drugs is seen as a druggie and "soft on crime". You can't get elected if the opposition paints you as "soft on crime", never mind that the prison population is bankrupting the public treasury, and that the underground drug trade is funding most of the criminal organizations.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There are lots of places where you don't need to take one. And also private business and government are two very different things. But you can pretend all you want so that you can continue making dismissive statements; but whatever.
    Very few. And, if a welfare collector wants to apply for a position at one of those companies, git after it.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, cause I totally don't know a bunch of folk that work there. You are so right.


    Oh wait, no you're not. Quit writing stupid remarks.

    Do you think that your average welfare recipient can qualify for one of those jobs?

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Very few. And, if a welfare collector wants to apply for a position at one of those companies, git after it.
    Depends on the field. In high tech you can find quite a few places which don't. Government labs always will, the big private defense companies always will, the small start ups don't always, suppliers such as Agilent, Thor Labs, etc don't (at least not for their technical positions). Hell one of my buddies works at Tricity Motors selling motorcycles, none of those people get drug tested. And a good thing too; I don't think a single person down there could pass one.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post

    In some ways, this would have seemed a no-brainer. While it got some political challenges, it seems headed for Constitutional muster as well.



    I would like to think that this shoul dbe common-sense policy nationwide for anyone on any government assistance, to include those getting a government paycheck of any sort.

    Constitutional claims or not, I think this one hard to oppose politically. Of course, I am for the legalization of all drugs, with conditions, but would still want drug testing mandated regardless.
    I like the idea. Since they receive public money, the public bears the responsibility to ensure that money is not spent on drugs.

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