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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I'm sorry, but it seems that you may have used a debilitating cocktail of drugs before you stumbled upon your current position, such that it is. Why do I think that you must be a TSA ball handler who works at the airport in Baton Rouge groping thousands upon thousands to catch one. That's the new America, isn't it? Guilty until proven innocent. That's growth industry, Big Brother. You obviously like fascism and want to see more of your money going to support state paranoia.
    Anyone that has a problem with being drug tested as a condition of receiving welfare is certainly free to not accept the money and go get a job. Afterall, it is a free country.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    What is amazing to me is that there are people on this thread - you all know who you are, and if you don't, we do - who immediately equate poverty with drug abuse. That is absurd. In Florida, 20.8% of people over 50 years old live below poverty. Some posters on this thread assume that the majority of those people are drug addicts. In Florida over 12% of the population of the people over 50 years old are unemployed. Of course that number does not include the people who have simply quit looking for work. Some posters here naively believe that anyone can work who want to work. Some posters here apparently believe that people over the age of 50 can easily find a job if they only wanted to work.

    As often happens conservatives are either uninterested in facts or unable to understand them. Only "elitists" are interested in statistics. Most people who receive public assistance are not drug abusers. I would challenge Conservative to pony up with the facts to base her assertions.
    No one is equating poverty with drug use. All we're saying, is that we don't want their drug habit funded with our money.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Anyone that has a problem with being drug tested as a condition of receiving welfare is certainly free to not accept the money and go get a job. Afterall, it is a free country.
    Yeah, here's your choice. Live on the street, or submit to constant government monitoring. Whoooooo, free!
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    You mean test people most likely to vote republican? Don't hold your breath Dana.
    Yeah right. We subsidize the crap out of corporations and other entities; but no one is calling for restrictions on them or that money. But some poor jerk on welfare...well we have to make sure it's being spent right. After all, we all know best.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, here's your choice. Live on the street, or submit to constant government monitoring. Whoooooo, free!
    Or, behind Door #3: get off your ass and get a job. Just a thought.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    I wonder when this country is going to wake up to the fact that a significant portion of the population is chemical dependent, that the so called "war on drugs" isn't working, and that the steps we've taken to remedy the situation have made things worse?

    No one wants to be drug tested, why? Because it is such a chore to pee in a cup? Or because so many of us would fail?
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah right. We subsidize the crap out of corporations and other entities; but no one is calling for restrictions on them or that money. But some poor jerk on welfare...well we have to make sure it's being spent right. After all, we all know best.
    I don't know why people think this is unreasonable, especially since most that advocate this idea also advocate testing for all governemnt employees including politicians.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Or, behind Door #3: get off your ass and get a job. Just a thought.
    Or we could be intelligent about this. Not eveyone on welfare is there because they aren't looking for a job; particularly now with high unemployment and an unresponsive government. So the reason they're on welfare is they have a job and more times than not can't find one. So submit, or get tossed onto the street where it will now become even harder to get a job than before. Your Catch 22 is pretty unreasonable. The choice you want people to have is to live on the streets or accept unreasonable government force against them. As I said, not much of a choice. Pretty stupid when you think about it.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I don't know why people think this is unreasonable, especially since most that advocate this idea also advocate testing for all governemnt employees including politicians.

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    Government agents and the free People are two different groups. Government is restricted. It's unreasonable search of a person, and we have right against that. I don't care if you take welfare money, you do not give up your rights. That's a fact.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No one wants to be drug tested, why? Because it is such a chore to pee in a cup? Or because so many of us would fail?
    Because it ain't the government's god damned business.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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