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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    The entire mentality behind this is just a heavy handed take on the misguided notion that using drugs (but really only SOME drugs) is somehow immoral and must be punished. Don't forget, this does not simply weed out addicts, it targets casual drug users as well. Don't forget that a THIRD OF THE COUNTRY have, at some point in their lives, used marijuana. Most drug users, even impoverished ones, are not dangerous addicts, they're simply people who like to feel good once in a while. And people in poverty are the ones who most need an artificial way to feel good.

    This is just a lot of bullsh*t moralizing, and the continued attack on the poor.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Why do the poor have to do drugs?
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The entire mentality behind this is just a heavy handed take on the misguided notion that using drugs (but really only SOME drugs) is somehow immoral and must be punished. Don't forget, this does not simply weed out addicts, it targets casual drug users as well. Don't forget that a THIRD OF THE COUNTRY have, at some point in their lives, used marijuana. Most drug users, even impoverished ones, are not dangerous addicts, they're simply people who like to feel good once in a while. And people in poverty are the ones who most need an artificial way to feel good.

    This is just a lot of bullsh*t moralizing, and the continued attack on the poor.
    you're joking right..

    you honestly think that someone, out of work, destitute to the point of needing government assistance has the time to use even casual drugs..
    which arent free by the way.
    so in theory we are buying these drugs for them

    wheres my America.. i want it back, these people have lost thier minds
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    I haven't read this entire thread, so if this point is already stated I apologize.

    When I go to work anywhere I have ever worked I have to consent to drug screening. When I was in the military, it was often. In the private sector it was a bit more rare other than for hire. When i did clinical rotations, it was required. So what is so wrong with requiring the same for people who are getting a benefit from the government?
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Why do the poor have to do drugs?
    They don't have to, but plenty of people (not just poor) do. They just can't afford the expensive perscription drugs and cocain that the upper class can afford.
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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    you're joking right..

    you honestly think that someone, out of work, destitute to the point of needing government assistance has the time to use even casual drugs..
    which arent free by the way.
    so in theory we are buying these drugs for them

    wheres my America.. i want it back, these people have lost thier minds
    The US government has long been involved in the drug trade.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The US government has long been involved in the drug trade.
    ok, now I know who I'm talking to,
    proceed

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    ok, now I know who I'm talking to,
    proceed

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    Your insults are weak and unimaginative. Please put more work into them.
    Last edited by Ikari; 06-02-11 at 05:48 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The entire mentality behind this is just a heavy handed take...

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    ...This is just a lot of bullsh*t moralizing, and the continued attack on the poor.
    Rant noted, but have you even read what other folks have posted in this thread?
    Last edited by Neomalthusian; 06-02-11 at 05:48 PM.

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    Re: Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The entire mentality behind this is just a heavy handed take on the misguided notion that using drugs (but really only SOME drugs) is somehow immoral and must be punished. Don't forget, this does not simply weed out addicts, it targets casual drug users as well. Don't forget that a THIRD OF THE COUNTRY have, at some point in their lives, used marijuana. Most drug users, even impoverished ones, are not dangerous addicts, they're simply people who like to feel good once in a while. And people in poverty are the ones who most need an artificial way to feel good.

    This is just a lot of bullsh*t moralizing, and the continued attack on the poor.
    I have to take issue with this. This is not just about the individual adult who receives and then distributes the assorted welfare to the family. You post as though that is the case. I submit it is quite the opposite.

    This is also very much about those other dependents. Especially the kids. The state is saying not just that a welfare recipient who does drugs may be deemed ineligible, but more importantly, that where an adult is found to be a "druggie", the state will find a non-druggie adult conduit through which to get the benefits to the other dependents.

    I do not see "bull**** moralizing" and an "attack on the poor". I am still waiting to see one reasoned disagreement with this new policy though.

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