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    Re: Horror for US Economy as Data Falls off Cliff

    So tell me, conservatives. If you were put in charge right now, what would you do to fix the economy?
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    Re: Horror for US Economy as Data Falls off Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If, by EPA, you mean the vast federal bureaucracy, that regulates every aspect of our lives right down to the kind of toilets we can crap into, then yes. Exactly. This single insight might be sufficient to turn you from your dark, liberal ways, toward the light and freedom of conservatism.
    I personally like Toilets that flush down instead of up, I don't care if the up ones are cheaper.

    Government takings are unconstitutional except under very strict rules. And yet we have seen financial institutions, car companies (I will never knowingly buy anything created by Government Motors), and 1/6th of the entire economy nationalized under the one-term president Obama.
    By this one 6th I assume you mean the Health Care industry, which was not nationalized.

    He has even dipped into crony capitalism (which is not capitalism) with his major contributor General Electric. I shall also not knowingly buy anything from GE. Add to it the enormous desire for power over everyone through taxation and the trifecta is complete.
    There's no actual coherent thought in this part...

    A: Whats Crony capitalism?

    B: power over everyone through taxation? He did extend your beloved Bush Tax Cuts by the way...

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    Re: Horror for US Economy as Data Falls off Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    What happened to the historic, decisive victory the Republicans won in 2010? Why haven't they fixed everything yet? They control half the government, so how come they get to lay all the blame at Obama's feet?
    Perhaps you are unfamiliar with American government and how it is organized. There are three branches of government. Ideally each of the three contends with the other two so that the government is constrained and prevented from becoming all powerful and tyrannical. The one-term president Obama heads the Executive branch. The Judicial branch is headed by no one. It consists of all of the federal courts with the US Supreme Court as the highest court. It's job is to decide, in accordance with the US Constitution, between parties in lawsuits and some criminal proceedings. The Legislative branch is divided into two contending groups, one group, we call the Senate, was originally intended to protect the states, with senators being selected by the governors of the states. It was a good idea. The second part, we call the House of Representatives, was intended to make sure the people of the country had a voice in lawmaking.

    Given that can you show me how Republicans control one-half of the federal government? From memory, without Google's assistance, I think Republicans only control the House. Your mileage may vary.

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    Re: Horror for US Economy as Data Falls off Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    By this one 6th I assume you mean the Health Care industry, which was not nationalized.
    If you prefer the fascist argument I could go that way for you instead. Most people do not understand fascism where the government essentially runs things through regulations while maintaining the facade of private ownership. The two are, for all practical purposes, identical in their outcomes. Just let me know which way you prefer to interact. Nationalization. Or fascism. Either way it is Obama.

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    Re: Horror for US Economy as Data Falls off Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If you prefer the fascist argument I could go that way for you instead. Most people do not understand fascism where the government essentially runs things through regulations while maintaining the facade of private ownership. The two are, for all practical purposes, identical in their outcomes. Just let me know which way you prefer to interact. Nationalization. Or fascism. Either way it is Obama.
    Ah ha.

    So you're one of "those" conservatives, well it's been nice chatting but since you have no idea what you're talking about I'm going to go watch the grass grow, far more productive.

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    Re: Horror for US Economy as Data Falls off Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    So tell me, conservatives. If you were put in charge right now, what would you do to fix the economy?
    I know!

    1) cut taxes for the rich and companies (not that it can get much lower), while increasing it for everyone else via the back door.
    2) stop SS, Medicaid/care. Who cares if people die to treatable diseases, that is their problem and responsibility! Old people, you should have saved up!.. time to live with your children or on the street!
    3) increase military spending to cope with the social unrest and blame it on the left and Muslims.
    4) make homosexuality a crime punishable by death..the test case is going on in Uganda with the help of the evangelical back bone of the conservative movement. Bonus is that the opposition will have less core voters.
    5) ban abortion of any kind and making having or giving an abortion punishable by death. Sucks for the women who abort naturally.. it must be their own fault and hence they must be punished.
    6) out law communism and "liberals" ideas at all levels of society.
    7) lock all Muslim in camps or kick them out.. all Muslims are terrorists no?
    8) lock all Hispanics up since at least some of them must be illegal no?

    That close enough?
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    Re: Horror for US Economy as Data Falls off Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    So tell me, conservatives. If you were put in charge right now, what would you do to fix the economy?
    Repeal every piece of Democrat legislation ever passed in US History..........

    .........and the flood gates of Prosperity will once again open.
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    Re: Horror for US Economy as Data Falls off Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Repeal every piece of Democrat legislation ever passed in US History..........

    .........and the flood gates of Prosperity will once again open.
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    so the constitution, bill of rights and all that stuff right?
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    Re: Horror for US Economy as Data Falls off Cliff

    today:

    Employers hired far fewer workers than expected in May and the jobless rate rose to 9.1 percent, raising concerns the economy might be stuck in a painful slow-growth mode.

    Nonfarm payrolls increased 54,000 last month, the weakest reading since September, the Labor Department said on Friday. Private employment rose just 83,000, the least since last June, while government payrolls dropped 29,000.

    Economists had expected payrolls to rise 150,000 and private hiring to increase 175,000. The government revised employment figures for March and April to show 39,000 fewer jobs created than previously estimated.

    The job creation slowdown confirmed the economic weakness already flagged by other data from consumer spending to manufacturing, and it stoked fears the economy could be facing a more troubling stretch of weakness than had been thought.

    The economy has regained only a fraction of the more than 8 million jobs lost during the recession. Economists say payrolls growth above 300,000 a month is needed to make significant progress in shrinking the pool of 13.9 million unemployed Americans.
    Employment growth slows sharply in May | Reuters

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    Re: Horror for US Economy as Data Falls off Cliff

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Repeal every piece of Democrat legislation ever passed in US History..........

    .........and the flood gates of Prosperity will once again open.
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    I actually can't tell if you're being serious or not. That's kind of depressing.
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