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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Wow. This is a shame. Corporations get bailed out, multi-billion dollar wars get waged, the top 1% get tax breaks, and yet we can't even manage to feed our own people. I truly worry for the future of this country.
    Well screw the poor and take care of the rich. Seems to be the way to do things these days
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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I see no point in any state giving any assistance if it's meager and non-beneficial.

    How much food can be bought and consumed for $15 , $25? That's what they've been getting. . . surely that's not actually enough to live off of already.

    Where are the people demanding that they pay *more* than that? Why are people offended that such a small amount is being taken away instead?
    That will buy a lot of Ramen Noodles
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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Wow. This is a shame. Corporations get bailed out, multi-billion dollar wars get waged, the top 1% get tax breaks, and yet we can't even manage to feed our own people. I truly worry for the future of this country.
    Who says YOU cant feed our people? YOU have every right and opportunity to feed the people and SHOULD. YOU have every reason and opportunity to engage in food drives, meal drives, to donate it yourself, to get involved. Dont wait for the government to do what you profess to believe in. Get out there and DO IT.

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Well screw the poor and take care of the rich. Seems to be the way to do things these days
    Just how is the poor being 'screwed'? And who is 'taking care of the rich'?

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You dragged planned parenthood into a discussion about food stamps? As if the people darn it arent going to behave responsibly now that they dont have as many foodstamps. Now we will have a bunch of unplanned pregancies! Oh woe!

    211.org. Look up your zip code. I GURANTEE you will find funded services that can hand out condoms for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    who said anything about abortions? would it hurt poor people to wear a ****ing condom or take the pill? they hand out condoms for free and you can get the pill at the "free clinic". there is no excuse for these people to keep pumping out kids like litters of kittens and then expecting the productive population to support them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Though it's not happening in New Mexico, that I'm aware of, with all these bills killing Planned Parenthood around the country, the availability of free condoms and "pills" will be reduced, thus increasing the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so what if they're not free. make a freaking choice. give up a pack of smokes or a case of beer each month and you can afford to buy condoms.
    You will notice, Oscar brought up free clinics. I responded, I wasn't out in left field.

    I used my real zip:

    There is currently no 2-1-1 call center serving this area.
    This is not mine, but it is a much larger city than mine (97501/97504)

    There is currently no 2-1-1 call center serving this area.

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    This is what happened:

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    You will notice, Oscar brought up free clinics. I responded, I wasn't out in left field.

    I used my real zip:

    This is not mine, but it is a much larger city than mine (97501/97504)
    OK...my bad for jumping on you. I looked at the post before Oscars...someone else jumped in with the abortion thing. You got hit by the splatter...guilt by association. Sorry.

    I take this topic very seriously...more than most people. I work with this situation every day. I give of both my own time and resources. It drives me insane how much we actually give away in social programs to those that dont need it. Its painful knowing that our system enables capable individuals to do absiolutely nothign with their lives and it isnt just for a year or two...its for DECADES. Its not doing them any favors. Case in point...37 year old male...11 trips to the hospital in 30 days. Med seeking. Enabled by the system for 14 years, then dumped. Setting aside the human tragedy for a second, 8 of those visits involved ER visits and labwork to the tune of about 1400 a visit. 3 involved stays in the Intensive Care unit at a cost of about 2500 a day. My math is a little rough, but for the month of may, the taxpayers in the county will be handed a bill for unfunded services totalling about $34000.00. ANd thats just for this month. He isnt 'fixed'. He will either keep coming here or go to another county. He is 37. He has been doing this since he was denied benefits 3 years ago (so none of this includes the cost to the taxpayers for 14 years). He will continue to do this. Figuring this to be an 'average' month, just imagine what this one person costs taxpayers in a given year. Imagine that number multiplied by thousands. Its not that we arent putting money into the social services system, it is we arent monitoring it, arent governing it, and arent careful with who gets placed in it. For every one of this guy there are at least as many truly needy individuals.

    Edit...for comparison, across the city there is a 54 year old male...similar circumstances...trying to get into a secure psych facility nor for the 8th time since January. He also has been in the system since his 20's. He is non med compliant, doesnt follow up with his medical state funded) provider, doesnt go to therapy, drinks his disablity checks away by the first week, then is a sad panda and needs to be housed because he cant take care of humself for the next three weeks. He has learned all he as to say is the magic words and hospitals give him what he wants. If the hospital dares to say, sorry dood...not buyin it...well then he leaves, cuts himself with a piece of glass...and sues everyone that he has come into contact with since he got to the hospital.
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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    If you guys have a question(s) for a person that is considered fully disabled I'm more than willing to answer questions.

    To start with, I think it sucks more for me than it does for you.

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    OK...my bad for jumping on you. I looked at the post before Oscars...someone else jumped in with the abortion thing. You got hit by the splatter...guilt by association. Sorry.

    I take this topic very seriously...more than most people. I work with this situation every day. I give of both my own time and resources. It drives me insane how much we actually give away in social programs to those that dont need it. Its painful knowing that our system enables capable individuals to do absiolutely nothign with their lives and it isnt just for a year or two...its for DECADES. Its not doing them any favors. Case in point...37 year old male...11 trips to the hospital in 30 days. Med seeking. Enabled by the system for 14 years, then dumped. Setting aside the human tragedy for a second, 8 of those visits involved ER visits and labwork to the tune of about 1400 a visit. 3 involved stays in the Intensive Care unit at a cost of about 2500 a day. My math is a little rough, but for the month of may, the taxpayers in the county will be handed a bill for unfunded services totalling about $34000.00. ANd thats just for this month. He isnt 'fixed'. He will either keep coming here or go to another county. He is 37. He has been doing this since he was denied benefits 3 years ago (so none of this includes the cost to the taxpayers for 14 years). He will continue to do this. Figuring this to be an 'average' month, just imagine what this one person costs taxpayers in a given year. Imagine that number multiplied by thousands. Its not that we arent putting money into the social services system, it is we arent monitoring it, arent governing it, and arent careful with who gets placed in it. For every one of this guy there are at least as many truly needy individuals.

    Edit...for comparison, across the city there is a 54 year old male...similar circumstances...trying to get into a secure psych facility nor for the 8th time since January. He also has been in the system since his 20's. He is non med compliant, doesnt follow up with his medical state funded) provider, doesnt go to therapy, drinks his disablity checks away by the first week, then is a sad panda and needs to be housed because he cant take care of humself for the next three weeks. He has learned all he as to say is the magic words and hospitals give him what he wants. If the hospital dares to say, sorry dood...not buyin it...well then he leaves, cuts himself with a piece of glass...and sues everyone that he has come into contact with since he got to the hospital.
    "3 involved stays in the Intensive Care"

    Why is this guy in the ICu? It seems a bit extreme to me.

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    "3 involved stays in the Intensive Care"

    Why is this guy in the ICu? It seems a bit extreme to me.
    Because he threatened suicide, claims to have ODed on NyQuil and sleeping pills, and pretend vomited blood. Told responding officers he was suicidal. Failed to respond to verbal commands in ER. Its not like after 20 years these folks dont know the game.

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If you guys have a question(s) for a person that is considered fully disabled I'm more than willing to answer questions.

    To start with, I think it sucks more for me than it does for you.
    If you are actually fully disabled than I am just as pissed as you that there are so many that are NOT and abusing the system and stealing resources intended for you.

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