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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Hey, that's the same way Dems feel about all the tax cuts for the wealthy.

    Why don't the Reps do that then - give your checks to them and leave the rest of us alone to help the poor. More goes to the wealthy and corporations, but I guess Reps don't mind working to supply them with more.
    Seems to me it was BHO who was bailing out corporations and businesses. A big donor, Don Gips, got an Ambassadorship to South Africa and his company, Level 3 Communications, got almost $14 million in stimulus money even through they claim they ddn't ask for it and Gips says he knew nothing about it. Amazing. And his second bestest buddy (after terrorist Bill Ayers), Head of GE Jeffrey Immelt, is heading up his Economic Advisory Panel, despite GE laying off hundreds of workers!

    People who support this craziness must be seriously thick, or deliberately deaf and blind.

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    So if someone, anyone out there is allowed by this tyrannical government, to keep more of the wealth they create, that is an affront to you? That somehow diminishes you?
    If someone out there is paying less than you are paying while they are earning more than you, that is not an affront to you? Why should the wealthy be given special treatment? Why is "everyone should pay their fair share" so distasteful to conservatives? Why do conservatives feel that the wealthy should be sheltered and allowed to pay less than their fair share? Are they rewarding you for your generosity so that you feel you need to continue doing it?


    I don't want a busybody government that is doing things that are extra-constitutional. I want a constitutionally-based, limited government that does well its very few tasks.
    Which is "cut out everything that benefits the middle-class and lowers the tax rates for the uber wealthy"?

    Most of the rich got there by providing goods and services that make our lives wonderful. They started as I started. Naked.
    Who gives a rat's behind how they started? We pay for the goods and services that they provide that make our lives wonderful. Those that are uber wealthy are making a neat profit, or they wouldn't be uber wealthy. The fact is they make more than enough to pay their fair share, they don't need "extra" tax cuts - they are already benefitting from loopholes and tax shelters that allow them to itemize things to reduce their taxes, why do they need more?

    Your hate completes you.
    Quit trying to act so sanctimonious. It's not hate, it's plain sensible, but your hate for the less fortunate is obvious.



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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Seems to me it was BHO who was bailing out corporations and businesses.
    Got selective memory? Bush was the one that bailed out the banks. Republicans are the ones that want to make tax cuts for the wealthy/corporations permanent and some idiot (Bachmann) want to reduce them to "0".

    A big donor, Don Gips, got an Ambassadorship to South Africa and his company, Level 3 Communications, got almost $14 million in stimulus money even through they claim they ddn't ask for it and Gips says he knew nothing about it.
    Aw pleeeeeez! Like Republicans don't do similar?
    Bush Gives Swift-Boat Donor Fox Recess Ambassador Appointment
    By James Rowley - April 4, 2007 18:27 EDT

    April 4 (Bloomberg) -- A Missouri businessman who donated to a group that questioned the combat heroism of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry in the 2004 election was appointed ambassador to Belgium.

    Sam Fox, who contributed $50,000 to Swift Boat Veterans For Truth in 2004, was questioned by Kerry, a Massachusetts senator, during a confirmation hearing about his donation to the group that attacked Kerry's Vietnam War record.

    Bush Gives Swift-Boat Donor Fox Recess Ambassador Appointment - Bloomberg
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    President Bush continues the tradition of awarding ambassadorships as political favors

    By Center for Responsive Politics
    August 15, 2005 | U.S. presidents have long rewarded big campaign donors, fundraisers and other loyalists with ambassadorships to desirable countries around the world, and President Bush is no exception.

    At least 40 well-connected individuals who have contributed or raised generous amounts of money to help elect Republican candidates since Bush's first campaign for president are currently serving or have been nominated by him to serve as ambassadors.
    http://www.opensecrets.org/capital_eye/inside.php?ID=180

    Amazing. And his second bestest buddy (after terrorist Bill Ayers), Head of GE Jeffrey Immelt, is heading up his Economic Advisory Panel, despite GE laying off hundreds of workers!
    Aw geez, now that you mention bestest buddies, don't forget that the Bin Laden family and the Bushes were bed buddies.

    As for Immelt, you should check his background, he was a big Republican donor - he donates to whoever can benefit him, used to be in the Republican's pockets, so why is he even a factor when it is the Democrats that are wanting him out?

    Liberals want Immelt out of Obama's Administration

    Immelt, a Republican, donated to both Hillary Rodham Clinton and John McCain during the last presidential cycle, but not President Obama, according to Bloomberg.
    NationalJournal.com - GE's Immelt to Head Obama's New 'Jobs and Competitiveness' Board - Friday, January 21, 2011



    But yes, of course, Jeff Immelt is a businessman through and through. He is a trustee of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation board, while GE is a big sponsor of the Reagan Centennial Celebration. (Recall that the Gipper worked for GE as a spokesman and television host from 1954 through 1962.) Heís also a registered Republican who contributed to both Hillary Clinton and John McCain during the 2008 campaign. And last year, he harshly criticized Obama at a dinner in Italy, where he basically said: Obama doesnít like business, and business doesnít like Obama.
    GE's Immelt on the Hot Seat

    People who support this craziness must be seriously thick, or deliberately deaf and blind.
    People who support double standards must be seriously thick or deliberately deaf and blind.

    Bush Donors Reap Big Dividends from Taxpayers



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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Got selective memory? Bush was the one that bailed out the banks. Republicans are the ones that want to make tax cuts for the wealthy/corporations permanent and some idiot (Bachmann) want to reduce them to "0".


    Aw pleeeeeez! Like Republicans don't do similar?
    Bush Gives Swift-Boat Donor Fox Recess Ambassador Appointment
    By James Rowley - April 4, 2007 18:27 EDT

    April 4 (Bloomberg) -- A Missouri businessman who donated to a group that questioned the combat heroism of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry in the 2004 election was appointed ambassador to Belgium.

    Sam Fox, who contributed $50,000 to Swift Boat Veterans For Truth in 2004, was questioned by Kerry, a Massachusetts senator, during a confirmation hearing about his donation to the group that attacked Kerry's Vietnam War record.

    Bush Gives Swift-Boat Donor Fox Recess Ambassador Appointment - Bloomberg
    Embassy Row
    President Bush continues the tradition of awarding ambassadorships as political favors

    By Center for Responsive Politics
    August 15, 2005 | U.S. presidents have long rewarded big campaign donors, fundraisers and other loyalists with ambassadorships to desirable countries around the world, and President Bush is no exception.

    At least 40 well-connected individuals who have contributed or raised generous amounts of money to help elect Republican candidates since Bush's first campaign for president are currently serving or have been nominated by him to serve as ambassadors.
    http://www.opensecrets.org/capital_eye/inside.php?ID=180



    Aw geez, now that you mention bestest buddies, don't forget that the Bin Laden family and the Bushes were bed buddies.

    As for Immelt, you should check his background, he was a big Republican donor - he donates to whoever can benefit him, used to be in the Republican's pockets, so why is he even a factor when it is the Democrats that are wanting him out?

    Liberals want Immelt out of Obama's Administration

    Immelt, a Republican, donated to both Hillary Rodham Clinton and John McCain during the last presidential cycle, but not President Obama, according to Bloomberg.
    NationalJournal.com - GE's Immelt to Head Obama's New 'Jobs and Competitiveness' Board - Friday, January 21, 2011



    But yes, of course, Jeff Immelt is a businessman through and through. He is a trustee of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation board, while GE is a big sponsor of the Reagan Centennial Celebration. (Recall that the Gipper worked for GE as a spokesman and television host from 1954 through 1962.) Heís also a registered Republican who contributed to both Hillary Clinton and John McCain during the 2008 campaign. And last year, he harshly criticized Obama at a dinner in Italy, where he basically said: Obama doesnít like business, and business doesnít like Obama.
    GE's Immelt on the Hot Seat


    People who support double standards must be seriously thick or deliberately deaf and blind.

    Bush Donors Reap Big Dividends from Taxpayers
    So the 'Bush did it first' argument is still the survival mechanism of the Obamaniacs.

    Their own man is not only carrying on with the Bush policies, he's aggravating them and making conditions ever worse. His pitiful defenders can only try and seek out examples they feel might be just as bad..

    The corruption in this administration is unparalleled within the last 100 years, and the leftists support it.
    Last edited by Grant; 06-18-11 at 05:27 PM.

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So the 'Bush did it first' argument is still the survival mechanism of the Obamaniacs.
    So the "Bush did it first argument is still the survival mechanism of the Obamaniacs" still the survival mechanism of the Bushwack-ites? Is this how Reps/cons dismiss the ineptness of GW Bush?

    Their own man is not only carrying on with the Bush policies, he's aggravating them and making conditions ever worse. His pitiful defenders can only try and seek out examples they feel might be just as bad..
    You're getting your info from the republican propaganda sources, things are a lot better than when Bush left office.

    "I think jobs is the most important stat -- as you would probably agree - and we’ve seen 12 straight months of job growth in the private sector," Phelan told us in an e-mail. "In 2010, the private sector gained 1.3 million jobs -- the strongest job growth since 2006."

    Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke recently told a congressional committee that the economy has shown "hopeful" signs of growth -- citing increases in consumer spending and private-sector investment in new equipment and software. But Bernanke also said he was troubled by issues such as long-term unemployment and mortgage foreclosures.

    Another popular economic measure, the Dow Jones industrial average, is hovering around 12,000, about a 50 percent increase from 7,949 on Jan. 20, 2009. The Dow decreased by about 50 percent between the beginning of 2007 and the beginning of 2009. Some may argue the drop between 2007 and 2009 was the result of a few extraordinary days on Wall Street. The Dow dropped 504 points on Sept. 15, 2008, the worst one-day decline since the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The Dow dropped by about 1,400 points during a five-day stretch in October 2008.

    Unemployment is another trouble point for the congressman’s argument. The nation’s unemployment rate was 7.2 percent in December 2008. A year later, it was 9.9 percent. In December 2010, the rate was 9.4 percent; lower than at the end of 2009, but still higher than at the same point in 2008. Monthly job losses, which were brutal between July 2008 and June 2009, have stopped, and the data shows there is growth in that area.
    June 2011 Economy better than 2009 - Google Search



    The corruption in this administration is unparalleled within the last 100 years, and the leftists support it.
    Nothing can surpass the corruption during the Bush years. Keep repeating the conservative rhetoric and denying the facts - it makes for cons feeling a little better about what they have done to the country. It is amazing how most Reps/cons turn a blind eye to what Bush did, but are so vocal about Obama.
    Double standards? I think so!
    Last edited by mertex; 06-18-11 at 07:19 PM.



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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    If someone out there is paying less than you are paying while they are earning more than you, that is not an affront to you?
    Perhaps you should join me in pushing for the Fair Tax. That would eliminate much of the power the Congress has.
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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    So the "Bush did it first argument is still the survival mechanism of the Obamaniacs" still the survival mechanism of the Bushwack-ites? Is this how Reps/cons dismiss the ineptness of GW Bush?
    George Bush is no longer President! You should get into the present and consider the future. Barrack Obama is the President NOW and should e a concern to everyone.

    You're getting your info from the republican propaganda sources, things are a lot better than when Bush left office.
    Really? How so?

    "I think jobs is the most important stat -- as you would probably agree - and we’ve seen 12 straight months of job growth in the private sector," Phelan told us in an e-mail. "In 2010, the private sector gained 1.3 million jobs -- the strongest job growth since 2006."
    The percentage of unemployed now is higher then when BHO took office, despite the trillions spent.
    Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke recently told a congressional committee that the economy has shown "hopeful" signs of growth -- citing increases in consumer spending and private-sector investment in new equipment and software. But Bernanke also said he was troubled by issues such as long-term unemployment and mortgage foreclosures.
    Right! Change and hopeful!!

    Another popular economic measure, the Dow Jones industrial average, is hovering around 12,000, about a 50 percent increase from 7,949 on Jan. 20, 2009. The Dow decreased by about 50 percent between the beginning of 2007 and the beginning of 2009. Some may argue the drop between 2007 and 2009 was the result of a few extraordinary days on Wall Street. The Dow dropped 504 points on Sept. 15, 2008, the worst one-day decline since the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The Dow dropped by about 1,400 points during a five-day stretch in October 2008.
    I invest and understand the stock market. Business confidence in Obama is zilch.





    Nothing can surpass the corruption during the Bush years.
    Then let's see it.So far you've given nothing but blather.

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    How about personal responsibility? Now there's a novel thought. Why should the government pay for a child's welfare on a routine basis? I thought it was the parent's role.
    How about personal responsibility. I thought running your own successful business is a personal responsibility. Why do we have to offer "tax breaks" or incentives to businesses and bail them out when they fail?

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Perhaps you should join me in pushing for the Fair Tax. That would eliminate much of the power the Congress has.
    Americans For Fair Taxation: Americans For Fair Taxation

    Ha,ha! Anything being pushed by the Republicans (Fox News) supposed to be "fair"? That is a joke. Is that something like Faux News "fair and balanced"? Yeah, no thank you.



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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    George Bush is no longer President! You should get into the present and consider the future. Barrack Obama is the President NOW and should e a concern to everyone.
    Ha, that sounds like something that conservatives that want to push the 8 years of ineptness of Bush, under the rug would say. Obama is the President now, and he is doing a good job of fixing the crap that Bush left behind. It's the dumb Americans we need to be concerned with, the ones that think Palin, Bachmann, Perry and the likes of such clowns can be a good President. Just because cons were able to sneak GW in doesn't mean they'll be able to sneak another dummy in.



    Really? How so?
    If you made yourself available to other sources of information other than Faux News you would find out that things are a lot better than if we would have elected McBush and continued the Bush idiotic policies.



    The percentage of unemployed now is higher then when BHO took office, despite the trillions spent.
    Just imagine the number it would be if we would have done what Reps/cons wanted to do - "nothing". It's easy to complain about what is, but if we were in a depression and McCain was president, I'm sure all the Reps/cons would be saying "it's not so bad" - "what depression" - and "those people without jobs don't want to find jobs", but since it is Obama that is President, they want miraculous recovery after 8 years of corruption.

    Right! Change and hopeful!!
    Still better than the depression Republicans would have put us in.



    I invest and understand the stock market. Business confidence in Obama is zilch.
    Their confidence in Congress is lower, thanks to the upsurge of Republicans that got voted in on Nov 2010.



    Then let's see it.So far you've given nothing but blather.
    Considering your double standards and the drivel you've provided, I would say I'm doing great.



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