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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I give to the Salvation Army, and help collect food for the local food bank. More importantly, I'm not a proponent of the government taking people's money and giving it to others.....AS YOU ARE.
    I refuse t9o give to the Salvation Army because they are anti-gay.
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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I refuse t9o give to the Salvation Army because they are anti-gay.
    That's a really stupid reason to not give to a charitable organization. So you wouldn't give to the Catholic Church either? Anyways, I am not 100% sure how SNAP works I thought it was funded through the government but really this sounds stupid to totally cut the program. They -could- cut the wages of the government in the state, temporarily cut any infrastructure spending, border security, and be more stringent on who gets the actual SNAP benefits such as persons with no children under a certain age, make sure they are American citizens, etc. I don't see it possible for them to actually totally ax the program.
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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    This is a crime. To take a pittance... $25/month... away from the elderly and the disabled without cutting their own legislative salaries first, then cutting the free state cars and personal legislative perks, is an unacceptable travesty.

    Perish the thought of actually, you know, raising taxes on people who have a taxable income of over $1,000,000/year.

    Danarhea was right. They might just as well line up their old, their disabled, their starving poor and dump them into a mass grave. It would be kinder in the long run.

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    I hear this argument all the time. Banks aren't responsible because people were dumb enough to sign the contracts, so now they're SOL. I'm not buying it. Especially considering that even attorneys often struggle to comprehend the labyrinth of legal gobbledygook.
    I dont care if you are buying it or not...its reality. The banks didnt grab people buy the throats and make them take the loans. The people sought the banks ought. They agonized over their budget and played pretend finance and convinced themselves that when the fixed rate period was over they could either refi or they would be making enough to cover the loans by then. I dont excuse the banks role, I just pointed out the component you missed...every single individual that intentionally took out a loan they knew damn good and well they couldnt afford.

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Because folks, only Government can feed children.
    Only the government has the resources to reach all children. Most charitable organization, churches, etc., only reach a few, and some of the recipients of these organizations, churches, etc., are double dipping while many don't get anything from them.

    Jobs, in Arizona... PSHAW, jobs are nothing. Government hand outs how you live, where it's at.
    Compared to what government hands out to the wealthy "corporate welfare" - it's really not that much.



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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Interesting bit from the London papers. This pretty much mirrors what I see from county and state run agencies. The tragic legacy means the legitimatly disabled and needy individuals for which these programs were created are being choked out of existence by those that just never bothered to try. I'm pissed as a provider and a taxpayer. I'd be doubly pissed if I was someone that actually NEEDED the resources and I'd be DEMANDING real reform.

    Families where no one has ever worked doubled under Labour
    By Tim Shipman
    "Between 1997 and 2010 the number of households in which no one has ever had a job almost doubled from 184,000 to 352,000.
    This equates to more than 550,000 people for whom worklessness has become a way of life, according to the Office for National Statistics. Furthermore, seven out of ten adults in those households admit they have no intention of ever going to work. Critics say the figures are a reminder of the way a culture of benefit dependency has grown up, leaving a generation in some parts of Britain totally ignorant of the work ethic.

    And in a startling confirmation of how this is passed on through the generations, the official figures show there are 265,000 under 16 years old living in households where none of the adults has ever worked.
    Shockingly, 68 per cent of adults surveyed in these homes said they were ‘not seeking a job and would not like to work’.
    Another 16 per cent claimed they would like to work but were not bothering to look for a job.
    Just 13 per cent of those questioned were both unemployed and looking for work."

    Families where no one has ever worked doubled under Labour | Mail Online

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    This is a crime. To take a pittance... $25/month... away from the elderly and the disabled without cutting their own legislative salaries first, then cutting the free state cars and personal legislative perks, is an unacceptable travesty.
    There are unlimited needs when free things are given. The crime would be to spend money the state does not have.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Perish the thought of actually, you know, raising taxes on people who have a taxable income of over $1,000,000/year.
    How much of the tax burden do you think the top 1% of tax payers should pay? 30%? 40%? 50%? All?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Danarhea was right. They might just as well line up their old, their disabled, their starving poor and dump them into a mass grave. It would be kinder in the long run.
    Liberals could join together and begin to give their own money instead of other people's money. First, it would be refreshing. Secondly, it would turn many of them into conservatives who do actually give their own money. We would all benefit from a nation with fewer liberals and more conservatives.

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Only the government has the resources to reach all children. . . .
    Compared to what government hands out to the wealthy "corporate welfare" - it's really not that much.
    Which line item in the budget should I look for to see how much money the government is giving to wealthy corporations?

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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont care if you are buying it or not...its reality. The banks didnt grab people buy the throats and make them take the loans. The people sought the banks ought. They agonized over their budget and played pretend finance and convinced themselves that when the fixed rate period was over they could either refi or they would be making enough to cover the loans by then. I dont excuse the banks role, I just pointed out the component you missed...every single individual that intentionally took out a loan they knew damn good and well they couldnt afford.
    I'm really not arguing that individuals have absolutely no fault, but what I am arguing is that the current economic condition of the country is mainly the result of a corrupt government serving bankers and corporations instead of the people. Why else would the government deregulate the banks? The safety nets set up after the Great Depression have been all but removed, and now we see the results of high unemployment and stagnate wages. This didn't happen in a vacuum. And one can, of course, argue that no one who signed these contracts were under duress. But those types of contracts, full of complicated legal terms, are required to be signed for practically everything a person does from turning on their utilities to getting a cell phone. Page after page of terms, conditions, and loopholes that only corporate lawyers can understand. Facts are, we currently have banks and corporations, and a government with no accountability to the American people. We are now seeing the results.
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    Re: New Mexico to end food stamp supplement

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Intriguing. How does the government do that?
    By getting out of the way.

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