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    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    I think its stupid that there are laws preventing the assasination of world leaders. Some of the most vile of regimes where toppled with the killing of the dictator.

    Every national leader should be free to kill another national leader so long as they are prepared for the consequences of their actions.

    Now stop pussying around with me NATO and just bomb the **** out of every destination that Muammer may be.
    What do you think they are trying to do???

    I think America should realize that based on precedence, the US is now officially the global bad guy.(at least if we sanction assassinations as a viable tactic)

    Do you realize what you are really suggesting? Are you willig to accept assassination of people on our side?

    If that happens the nukes would more then likely start flying...
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    Re: Al-Jazeera footage captures 'western troops on the ground' in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, and I believe that I heard some time ago that the Brits and French were not ruling out sending in forces.

    The one thing glaring to me is that we, and when I say we I mean NATO, because that IS the US largely, are doing what most liberal whiners usually carry on about meddling in others affairs and such.

    I think we need to get back to a more basic foreign policy. And become more self sufficient as a nation.

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    Re: Al-Jazeera footage captures 'western troops on the ground' in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I agree with you on this. There are many problems in the Middle East today because of blowback, where we meddle in the affairs of other nations, and it comes back later to bite us in the ass.

    It is a lesson that I am slowly grappling with....As money gets tighter, priorities have to be set.


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    Re: Al-Jazeera footage captures 'western troops on the ground' in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    What do you think they are trying to do???

    I think America should realize that based on precedence, the US is now officially the global bad guy.(at least if we sanction assassinations as a viable tactic)

    Do you realize what you are really suggesting? Are you willig to accept assassination of people on our side?

    If that happens the nukes would more then likely start flying...
    Do you think international law is STOPPING that from happening? Has it stopped the US from sponsering it in the past, or has it stopped other powers trying to do it to us? Of course not. So what keeps this lovely world of ours spinning and what prevents people from killing each other?

    The reprecussions of what would happen if people find out is what. In fact you gave a pretty good reason why yourself.

    And Libya is a great example as to why it shouldnt have any particular international law against it, because when the need really arises and the US has to put a miserable bastard down then we wont look like hypocrites.
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    Re: Al-Jazeera footage captures 'western troops on the ground' in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Do you think international law is STOPPING that from happening? Has it stopped the US from sponsering it in the past, or has it stopped other powers trying to do it to us? Of course not. So what keeps this lovely world of ours spinning and what prevents people from killing each other?

    The reprecussions of what would happen if people find out is what. In fact you gave a pretty good reason why yourself.

    And Libya is a great example as to why it shouldnt have any particular international law against it, because when the need really arises and the US has to put a miserable bastard down then we wont look like hypocrites.
    You mean in lieu of providing enemy combatants legal representation and allowing the judicial system in the U.S. to work? Where have I heard this before?

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    Re: Al-Jazeera footage captures 'western troops on the ground' in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    You mean in lieu of providing enemy combatants legal representation and allowing the judicial system in the U.S. to work? Where have I heard this before?

    The US also has a military justice system. That works too.


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    Re: Al-Jazeera footage captures 'western troops on the ground' in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    You mean in lieu of providing enemy combatants legal representation and allowing the judicial system in the U.S. to work? Where have I heard this before?
    Right, because that's worked just dandy before.
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    Re: Al-Jazeera footage captures 'western troops on the ground' in Libya

    The major problem with assassination other than the ethical one is that the replacement might be worse than the one you get rid of.
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    Re: Al-Jazeera footage captures 'western troops on the ground' in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The major problem with assassination other than the ethical one is that the replacement might be worse than the one you get rid of.
    That is very very true, but the Libyan's are not fighting for a different dictator under any particular ideology, they are fighting for freedom and fighting to end the repression.

    While this is definetly a calculated risk, especially in countries that have dictators with a solid grip over the country and can successfully replace its leaders, the Arab Spring countries are definetly not as stable as that and thus not as likely to create some sort of leadership succession successfully without completely crumbling under current pressure.

    Actually i think in the case of Libya it would be especially advantegous for the TNC cause.
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    Re: Al-Jazeera footage captures 'western troops on the ground' in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Al-Jazeera footage captures 'western troops on the ground' in Libya | World news | The Guardian
    So, there's a no-fly zone and boots on the ground... at what point do we get to stop calling it a "humanitarian" mission and call it more accurately : an invasion / an attempted coup d'etat??
    It depends...is the current president a democrat or republican?

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