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RT presenter choked by police

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RT presenter choked by police — RT

police brutality and arrests took place in Washington DC as police brutally cracked down on a crowd of people for dancing by a Washinton DC memorial...

a new victory for American style democracy and free speech and expression..
 
This raises an interesting question: are public decency laws a violation of the 1st Amendment?
 
Let's cut to the chase, most of those people were acting like a mob of dickwits at the Jefferson Memorial to draw the attention they got. In my humble opinion, they were directionless losers pissing away 1st Amendment Rights for no good reason. There are many great reasons but acting like a gaggle of assclowns is not one of them.
 
Let's cut to the chase, most of those people were acting like a mob of dickwits at the Jefferson Memorial to draw the attention they got. In my humble opinion, they were directionless losers pissing away 1st Amendment Rights for no good reason. There are many great reasons but acting like a gaggle of assclowns is not one of them.
Well, you have the right to express that opinion. I'll grant you that.
The first amendment isn't needed to protect speech that we all agree on. It's more useful protecting speech that's controversial.
 
Let's cut to the chase, most of those people were acting like a mob of dickwits at the Jefferson Memorial to draw the attention they got. In my humble opinion, they were directionless losers pissing away 1st Amendment Rights for no good reason. There are many great reasons but acting like a gaggle of assclowns is not one of them.

Is not acting like a gaggle of assclowns protected by the first Amendment? The WBC for example?
 
Is not acting like a gaggle of assclowns protected by the first Amendment? The WBC for example?

these people were protesting a new law that forbade dancing in front of the monument. they did so by dancing. the law is against freedom of expression and the police brutality and the arrests against all democratic decency.
 
Let's cut to the chase, most of those people were acting like a mob of dickwits at the Jefferson Memorial to draw the attention they got. In my humble opinion, they were directionless losers pissing away 1st Amendment Rights for no good reason. There are many great reasons but acting like a gaggle of assclowns is not one of them.

I think the same of the tea party movement.. should we brutally crack down on them as well? freedom of speech in the US is becoming freedom of speech limited. we certainly have more freedom of speech and expression in Europe 2011 than you have in the US.
 
these people were protesting a new law that forbade dancing in front of the monument. they did so by dancing. the law is against freedom of expression and the police brutality and the arrests against all democratic decency.

I think I've done just that on a high school field trip a few years ago. Don't get what the big deal is.
 
Let's cut to the chase, most of those people were acting like a mob of dickwits at the Jefferson Memorial to draw the attention they got. In my humble opinion, they were directionless losers pissing away 1st Amendment Rights for no good reason. There are many great reasons but acting like a gaggle of assclowns is not one of them.

so I suppose you support the abolishment of Fox News on these same grounds?

Just kidding!

Seriously though I don't remember a "no silliness" caveat in the first amendment.
 
RT presenter choked by police — RT

police brutality and arrests took place in Washington DC as police brutally cracked down on a crowd of people for dancing by a Washinton DC memorial...

a new victory for American style democracy and free speech and expression..
There is a whole discussion on this in the Law and Order Forum.
 
these people were protesting a new law that forbade dancing in front of the monument. they did so by dancing. the law is against freedom of expression and the police brutality and the arrests against all democratic decency.

Wrong. They were protesting a U.S. Court of Appeals decision that UPHELD a BAN on dancing and other forms of protests INSIDE the monuments.

The police were not brutal. There was nothing brutal about the way the police handled the situation.
 
Wrong. They were protesting a U.S. Court of Appeals decision that UPHELD a BAN on dancing and other forms of protests INSIDE the monuments.

The police were not brutal. There was nothing brutal about the way the police handled the situation.

Do you think police should uphold laws, that could be clearly defined as unconstitutional?
 
Wrong. They were protesting a U.S. Court of Appeals decision that UPHELD a BAN on dancing and other forms of protests INSIDE the monuments.

The police were not brutal. There was nothing brutal about the way the police handled the situation.

Yes? did you even see the full video? by European standards at least, those police reactions are overly brutal in arresting people who arent even resisting. if they were resisting with violence those police reactions would not be brutal, but protestors used no violence.

in the end the police even chased out the media... :peace
 
Do you think police should uphold laws, that could be clearly defined as unconstitutional?

Well, The Ban had to go through District, Superior, and to the U.S. Court of Appeals... I don't understand how you think it could STILL be defined as unconstitutional after going through three levels of court systems to determine that very question.
 
Yes? did you even see the full video? by European standards at least, those police reactions are overly brutal in arresting people who arent even resisting. if they were resisting with violence those police reactions would not be brutal, but protestors used no violence.

in the end the police even chased out the media... :peace

Which they aren't supposed to be able to do.
 
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Yes? did you even see the full video? by European standards at least, those police reactions are overly brutal in arresting people who arent even resisting. if they were resisting with violence those police reactions would not be brutal, but protestors used no violence.

in the end the police even chased out the media... :peace

Yes, I saw the full video... did you see the full video?
 
Well, The Ban had to go through District, Superior, and to the U.S. Court of Appeals... I don't understand how you think it could STILL be defined as unconstitutional after going through three levels of court systems to determine that very question.

It's a public space.
The view of the courts is immaterial, this is a clear violation of a persons rights.
 
It's a public space.
The view of the courts is immaterial, this is a clear violation of a persons rights.

So, its your opinion that public places can be used for the people for whatever purpose that they want?

Hey everyone, bring your booze and lightsticks we are having a rave at the white house...
 
This is the only appropriate response to the police intervention.
 
I think the same of the tea party movement.. should we brutally crack down on them as well? freedom of speech in the US is becoming freedom of speech limited. we certainly have more freedom of speech and expression in Europe 2011 than you have in the US.

Point taken. Most of Europe does indeed have greater freedom of speech and expression than the U.S. I've seen that with my own eyes and know it to be true.
 
So, its your opinion that public places can be used for the people for whatever purpose that they want?

Hey everyone, bring your booze and lightsticks we are having a rave at the white house...

There was certainly no clear and present danger, those guys were halfheartedly dancing, which got them arrested.
If it were actually disturbing the peace, you'd have a point but you don't.

I'm not anti police, but I wish more would use their brains, instead of just following orders.
 
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