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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
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    police brutality and arrests took place in Washington DC as police brutally cracked down on a crowd of people for dancing by a Washinton DC memorial...

    a new victory for American style democracy and free speech and expression..
    You know what I see: some stupid ****ing idiots disobeying the law, causing problems, and defying police orders.

    And then getting body slammed becaue that's what happens when you are beyond annoying, disrupting the public peace, causing problems, disobeying the law and defying direct police orders.

    I would have wanted to slam them, too, for being so ****ing obnoxious.

    Oh - and no where do I see 'flash mob at 12-o'clock high' as being procted freedom of speech . . . I see a bunch or weirdos being intentionally annoying for youtube hits and then crying when their milk spills and people don't find it amusing.
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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    SCOTUS has outlined the limits. Maybe you weren't aware.

    The National Parks has outlined fair and reasonable rules for demonstrations. Groups of 25 or less can demonstrate in numerous locations throughout the mall. The permit process is there to ensure public safety and protect the RIGHTS of regular tourists. SCOTUS has upheld reasonable restrictions on demonstrations.

    The WBC and Fred Phelps get their permits wherever they go. They are the most vile and hateful group out there and SCOTUS upheld their rights. Free Speech in American is stronger than ever with the internet, Facebook, Twitter. But you CAN NOT infringe on the rights of others while exercising your rights.

    Thomas Jefferson believed in the rule of law. These flash mob assholes didn't respect that.
    Thomas Jefferson believed in the rule of just law. The law that was passed is an unjust law since it violates the part of the First Amendment that says, "Congress shall make no law..." Which part of shall make no law don't you understand?

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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Thomas Jefferson believed in the rule of just law. The law that was passed is an unjust law since it violates the part of the First Amendment that says, "Congress shall make no law..." Which part of shall make no law don't you understand?
    Sorry, the law was upheld on appeal. There are many laws that restrict free speech in fair and reasonable ways.

    Stop trying to play armchair lawyer, it's embarrassing.

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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Sorry, the law was upheld on appeal. There are many laws that restrict free speech in fair and reasonable ways.

    Stop trying to play armchair lawyer, it's embarrassing.
    Stop playing Appeal to Authority logical fallacy. The Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States are quite clear on the matter. It's a disgrace that this unjust law is on the books.

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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
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    police brutality and arrests took place in Washington DC as police brutally cracked down on a crowd of people for dancing by a Washinton DC memorial...

    a new victory for American style democracy and free speech and expression..
    These people went there to cause trouble and the video shows no brutality that I saw.

    Code Pink is group of wackos who do what ever they can to raise hell.

    One of their people was the one who yelled out during Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech before Joint meeting of Congress.

    This is a BS story to me, that is heavily slanted.

    This was at a Memorial not a dance party, and these fools showed no respect.

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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    these people were protesting a new law that forbade dancing in front of the monument. they did so by dancing. the law is against freedom of expression and the police brutality and the arrests against all democratic decency.
    The 1st Amendment doesn't protect illegal activity.

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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The 1st Amendment doesn't protect illegal activity.
    And to organize and gather in large numbers for a specific purpose - in some places - you need a permit.

    I just think this new fangled 'mass mob' thing is VERY annoying and immature - if I'm working somewhere I shouldn't have to be bothered by a bunch of dingdongs who don't belong there.

    You can't just impose your desires and claim 'freedome of speech!' - because others have a freedom of peace, too.

    Aside that - what's being 'said' or 'accomplished' the whole purpose of these flash mobs is to ANNOY PEOPLE. Not to spread the word, message or story about anything.
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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    There was certainly no clear and present danger, those guys were halfheartedly dancing, which got them arrested.
    If it were actually disturbing the peace, you'd have a point but you don't.

    I'm not anti police, but I wish more would use their brains, instead of just following orders.
    How about following the law?

    A) When I go dancing, I don't show up with a camera crew. This was a flash mob stunt designed to test the law.

    B) Demonstrations of 25 or less are only allowed w/o a permit in certain areas. That was not one of them.

    C) When a police officer politely says you need to leave, you don't get fresh and start pretending to be an attorney.

    D) Thomas Jefferson was a brilliant writer and thinker-- if these jackasses want to prove they're worthy of him, put pen to paper and show us. The flash mob crap is lame and uninspired.

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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    How about following the law?

    A) When I go dancing, I don't show up with a camera crew. This was a flash mob stunt designed to test the law.

    B) Demonstrations of 25 or less are only allowed w/o a permit in certain areas. That was not one of them.

    C) When a police officer politely says you need to leave, you don't get fresh and start pretending to be an attorney.

    D) Thomas Jefferson was a brilliant writer and thinker-- if these jackasses want to prove they're worthy of him, put pen to paper and show us. The flash mob crap is lame and uninspired.

    You like this.
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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    My permit is the Bill of Rights.... Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech... or the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    Im sorry, I don't see anywhere in that where it says you can do it at whatever location you wish to do so.

    If so, I say we do it on someone's private lawn.
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