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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    You don't resist police. What you do is record their activities and then sue their asses off. That is the way things change.

    I must say though, I do rather enjoy when police get their asses handed to them by a mob for abusing their powers.

    Play fair and you'll get fairness in return. That goes both ways.

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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    You don't resist police. What you do is record their activities and then sue their asses off. That is the way things change.

    I must say though, I do rather enjoy when police get their asses handed to them by a mob for abusing their powers.

    Play fair and you'll get fairness in return. That goes both ways.
    Now, can you tell me how any of your post is relevant to this thread..... or are you just being a general cop-hater?
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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Now, can you tell me how any of your post is relevant to this thread..... or are you just being a general cop-hater?
    It's my two cents... if you don't like it, then don't respond?

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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    It's my two cents... if you don't like it, then don't respond?
    Just curious as to what video or incident you were referring to.
    Nobody got their asses handed to them in this video.
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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Let's cut to the chase, most of those people were acting like a mob of dickwits at the Jefferson Memorial to draw the attention they got. In my humble opinion, they were directionless losers pissing away 1st Amendment Rights for no good reason. There are many great reasons but acting like a gaggle of assclowns is not one of them.
    I agree with you, but after reading your post, I am surprised that Fred Phelps and the Westboro crazies have not been arrested. Do they, perhaps, have more First Amendment rights than the dancers?
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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I agree with you, but after reading your post, I am surprised that Fred Phelps and the Westboro crazies have not been arrested. Do they, perhaps, have more First Amendment rights than the dancers?
    You are missing the point.
    Law Enforcement in this case weren't just arresting people to arrest them.
    It was specific to their location.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Wrong. They were protesting a U.S. Court of Appeals decision that UPHELD a BAN on dancing and other forms of protests INSIDE the monuments.

    The police were not brutal. There was nothing brutal about the way the police handled the situation.
    I agree with Caine.

    I don't agree with the law, but the police were generally quite civil in enforcing it. The guy they body slammed was a big dude, and he was using his might to resist arrest in a very passive way, which I also commend. His point was to protest the law, and be arrested for it in a manner to maximize the story, and like the police, he did his job in a respectful way.

    but I hate the law, and the direction this country is heading. Fear is winning, and it sucks. This story reminds me of this article

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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I agree with you, but after reading your post, I am surprised that Fred Phelps and the Westboro crazies have not been arrested. Do they, perhaps, have more First Amendment rights than the dancers?
    They get permits and follow the law.

    The most vile and hateful speech is still allowed. Which makes all the Utube comments about 'end of liberty and freedom' just ridiculous.

    Permits allow for the allocation of proper crowd control. Groups under 25 don't need a permit, but demonstrations at that specific location are expressly forbidden. There are tons of places where demonstrations are allowed in DC. The National mall is very accommodating.

    This was not JUST DANCING. This was a deliberate attempt to draw attention -- a demonstration under the law. They brought cameras and were there to make a scene. The park police politely asked them to leave, they refused, procedure was followed.

    I feel sorry for the regular visitors who were turned away at the end of the video. It is a long walk over to the Jefferson and because of the selfish actions of this Adam fellow, their day was ruined. In his tiny little mind rights have no limitations. And the rest of the world has no rights when he's exercising his.

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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    They get permits and follow the law.

    The most vile and hateful speech is still allowed. Which makes all the Utube comments about 'end of liberty and freedom' just ridiculous.

    Permits allow for the allocation of proper crowd control. Groups under 25 don't need a permit, but demonstrations at that specific location are expressly forbidden. There are tons of places where demonstrations are allowed in DC. The National mall is very accommodating.

    This was not JUST DANCING. This was a deliberate attempt to draw attention -- a demonstration under the law. They brought cameras and were there to make a scene. The park police politely asked them to leave, they refused, procedure was followed.

    I feel sorry for the regular visitors who were turned away at the end of the video. It is a long walk over to the Jefferson and because of the selfish actions of this Adam fellow, their day was ruined. In his tiny little mind rights have no limitations. And the rest of the world has no rights when he's exercising his.
    My permit is the Bill of Rights.... Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech... or the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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    Re: RT presenter choked by police

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    My permit is the Bill of Rights.... Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech... or the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    SCOTUS has outlined the limits. Maybe you weren't aware.

    The National Parks has outlined fair and reasonable rules for demonstrations. Groups of 25 or less can demonstrate in numerous locations throughout the mall. The permit process is there to ensure public safety and protect the RIGHTS of regular tourists. SCOTUS has upheld reasonable restrictions on demonstrations.

    The WBC and Fred Phelps get their permits wherever they go. They are the most vile and hateful group out there and SCOTUS upheld their rights. Free Speech in American is stronger than ever with the internet, Facebook, Twitter. But you CAN NOT infringe on the rights of others while exercising your rights.

    Thomas Jefferson believed in the rule of law. These flash mob assholes didn't respect that.

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