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    Re: US extends controversial Patriot Act

    In a time when the primary focus should be on the economy, they push legislation that allows less accountability for their actions. The Patriot Act doesn't demand an absolute focus on terrorism and no probable cause. Without probable cause, they can make all kinds of mistakes and never be held accountable. They just voted in Witch-hunt logic. They can put us in harms way by interrogating and investigating innocent people. They've already been bribed by the entertainment industry to chase down people who make money off of advertisements by linking to copyrighted material. They have a history of bothering potheads too. This all costs the taxpayers more money than we have to waste on such nonsense. Yeah, put the nation in harms way with terrorists and go after a pot head or a hacker, that's the real intent of the Patriot Act! They keep this up and we are going to get hit while their screwing around and fondling marijuana paraphernalia.
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    Re: US extends controversial Patriot Act

    Well here we go. More gov spying.


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    Re: US extends controversial Patriot Act

    I don't care about the Patriot Act. I suppose I should, but I don't.

    Let me know when it actually gets abused, maybe then I'll care.

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    Re: US extends controversial Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't care about the Patriot Act. I suppose I should, but I don't.

    Let me know when it actually gets abused, maybe then I'll care.
    It could be being heavily abused right now... The thing is, we don't know as the act doesn't require the government to inform us how much of our privacy it invades and when, nor is the government required to obtain a warrant before it enters our home, taps our phone, etc. Basically, there are no checks or balances in the law and fear is the driving factor, not logic or reasonable suspicion. It would be entirely different if there were checks and balances. The only thing you can do is read the law, and educate yourself on the risks.

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    Re: US extends controversial Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't care about the Patriot Act. I suppose I should, but I don't.

    Let me know when it actually gets abused, maybe then I'll care.



    Nevermind that it could [or could not] be going on, but we'll never know because they hid behind classifying everything - like with the TSA's procedures - and nevermind that usually when it becomes very obvious it is usually very very difficult to fight, moreso than taking notice and fighting now.
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    Re: US extends controversial Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    US extends controversial Patriot Act — RT

    Not surprisingly this goes silent past most people. the temporary freedom robbing patriot act legislations has been extended and will end up snuk into US society permanently..
    Sad day for democracy in the US, also shows there is not much difference between republicans and democrats or bush or obama.
    in a fascist country non of these make a difference.
    Perhaps when Obama was talking about change he was talking about pocket change.
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    Re: US extends controversial Patriot Act

    This is not a problem exclusive to the United States. It's effecting the Free World everywhere.

    British the most spied-on people in western world - Times Online

    BBC NEWS | Europe | The most spied upon people in Europe

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    Re: US extends controversial Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwing86 View Post
    "This time he extended it without even signing the law himself. As he rested in bed following G8 meetings in France, an automated machine signed the bill with his signature for him."

    Lol, kinda sad to read that. An automated machine to sign things into law? We really are lazy as ****.
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    Re: US extends controversial Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    It could be being heavily abused right now... The thing is, we don't know as the act doesn't require the government to inform us how much of our privacy it invades and when, nor is the government required to obtain a warrant before it enters our home, taps our phone, etc. Basically, there are no checks or balances in the law and fear is the driving factor, not logic or reasonable suspicion. It would be entirely different if there were checks and balances. The only thing you can do is read the law, and educate yourself on the risks.
    This just isn’t true. A search warrant is required from a FISA Court for any of the actions you just described. Even the ACLU, who is vehemently opposed to this law, doesn’t make such contentions about warrantless searches.

    If what you describe were true, SCOTUS would have slapped this law down as unconstitutional a long time ago. You may not agree with the law but spreading misinformation about it only makes you look less educated on the topic.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: US extends controversial Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't care about the Patriot Act. I suppose I should, but I don't.

    Let me know when it actually gets abused, maybe then I'll care.
    Leo Padilla, US citizen, arrested and held without habeas corpus for years on charages of terrorsim. 2002.

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